Charlie Manson is dead. Fetch me a bin liner. I could make that funeral quick and inexpensive I assure you.
In the wake of Manson’s long overdue demise there were a great many catastrophically bad opinions expressed.
Chuck Woolery, a former television host and Hollywood conservative does a podcast (doesn’t everyone these days?) with fellow weirdo, Mark Young. It sounds as many podcasts do, as if two drunk men are sitting in a garage with a cheap microphone trying to outdo each other with increasingly stupid takes.
Woolery thinks Manson was an early supporter of the antifa (anti-fascist movement) and further that had Charlie been allowed to vote, he would have scratched a swastika in the box alongside Bernie Saunders’ name. By Woolery’s logic Jeffrey Dahmer would be a Reaganite, preferring to opt out of the expensive food stamp welfare program and make his own sandwiches.
Sadly it got a lot worse. On the other side of the political aisle, there were some appalling attempts to evoke sympathy for the man who facilitated and urged his followers to commit the most appalling deeds known as the Tate-Labianca murders in Los Angeles in 1969.
Full column here.
As for me, Jack, I never fail to salute our Chinese overlords. From just outside my house I can almost see the next 30+ level apartment going up less than 5km away. I nod at every passing big black Merc, just in case. I genuflect at every ‘For Sale’ sign in the streets, dreaming of the skyrocketing property prices.
Am I being anti-Australian, Jack?
I’m caddying for them right now, HU. Seven iron, Mr Huang?
That’s funny Jack!
Before you can pass the seven iron to Mr Huang JTI, you’ll need to get Sam’s hands out of the bag. I’m waiting on him calling the next penalty on himself in good golfing tradition.
Sam’s serving an unwooded chardonay and passing around the canapes.
Hope your recovery is continuing apace Lou.
And let’s not forget the Julie Bishop Glorious Foundation
How truthful of Bishop to deny it’s existence
Penny. ‘Glorious’ fibs all round…….
Dismayed, isn’t this the bloke you recently called, and I quote; Aussie Sam……
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/sam-dastyari-under-pressure-to-quit-after-donor-allegations/news-story/733362ecc8d8bf7b163b21950b9aa803
Hysterical over reach as usual. should we look at Andrew Robb forcing through a free trade agreement and accepting a job while still in parliament with a Chinese company? Should we look at the massive contributions to the Liberal party by the same Chinese people and companies far outstripping what the Labor party has received. This is just another distraction. How did this information come to light has the government again used the security forces for their political gain. Yes. Do you have anything positive this government has done? No? Aussie Sam made another mistake, has it cost the country anything? No. Get real you cons have blown. No Surprises.
Yes Dismayed, no-one ever mentions Andrew Robb’s tidy little move trying to push the FTA through while scoring himself a job with a Chinese company with close ties to the Chinese government. I don’t like Sam Dastyari one little bit, but the hypocrisy is somewhat breathtaking.
Is Andrew Robb in the parliament Penny?
At least he resigned before taking the job with the Chinese.
No he did not.
Sco Mo was like Pavlov’s dog tonight trying to turn the conversation to the arch villain Satans spawn super spy Sam. Extremely amusing.
But Dismal how can you call this capitalist running lap dog Aussie Sam? You used the term not me. Now jump in your box young fool. An idiot is best to shut up rather than going on and proving what others already think……..
There was young man called Dismayed
Who didn’t know with whom Sam parlayed
But Sam got caught
And without a thought
He left Dismals impotence displayed.
Yes we should look at all foreign political contributions
One of the aspects of doing any business in China is corruption and buying political favours.
We have enough homegrown experts capable of doing this without adding to the problem by a group that make the locals look like rank amateurs.
The Robb events sits very poorly with me and he should not be allowed any where near Parliament House or any politician of any persuasion.
Shanghai Sam was up to his neck in dubious donations in NSW – I think he believes he can smooth talk his way out of anything and he is probably right.
Time to draw a line in the sand and ban donations from foreign sources.
Maybe we should apply the same citizenship test to donors as we are doing to the pollies. 🙂
By the way, I thing defending Sam is a sure way of digging a very deep hole for oneself because he is a serial offender and the probability of his getting into the same mess again is quite high.
Aren’t those donating to Dastyari and the Liberals actually Australian citizens or permanent residents?
You’re spot on Razor. I recall he was banging on about phony empowering “dangerous fools” who attacked “Aussie Sam”.
At least Hanson’s mob don’t go around conniving with and empowering commies by furtively warning how they may sidestep our security services.
I dont think character circumspection is one of his strong points.
Yeah, like the “Commies” or anyone else for that matter would be remotely interested in a dialogue with “Hanson’s mob.” You make-a da joke yes?”
It’s known as ‘compare and contrast’ JB. Bit difficult to comprendre if you’re one-eyed me old mate.
Hanson’s mob have sold out the battlers on penalty rates. Liberal-Lite getting the job done for the conservatives yet again Carl. Her miniscule support base will be so proud.
The Federal ALP have a very loose cannon rolling all over the deck of their good ship, Mr Insider, in the form of Sam Dastyari . I say time for him to go b4 he stuffs Labors sailing to victory in the next Federal Election. Show some balls Bill Shorten , dash out on deck and roll this loose cannon overboard!
Someone mentioned facts. SA power cheaper than NSW and QLD even with the AEMO curtailing wind generation. Fact more Renewables = Cheaper Power.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/busting-more-myths-about-south-australias-wind-and-solar-61495/
http://reneweconomy.com.au/why-south-australia-must-and-will-lead-world-on-renewables-79455/
A few blogs back before all this Weinstein and Don Burke stuff, I was heavily criticised by right wingers on the blog who chastised me for reminding women/over reacting that the predator instinct is well and alive in all men-it is just that some can control it better than others and that women should never dress overly suggestive and place themselves alone with men in isolated unfamiliar places. My view has been endorsed by current events. It is wrong and naive to feel that all men can control their inner drives. Women should always be defensive and alert even with people they think they know.
I’m just wondering where it’s all going to end Bassy. Are we going to get wave after wave of wellknown people copping flack? Did I hear Geoffrey Rush’s name mentioned today? Just because they’re famous? Where are all the other not so famous if we’re going to go down this path? Crikey, I could name a couple of bosses – but I don’t think I am permanently damaged because a pass was made at me!
I know it’s sordid and all that, but I wonder if every erstwhile boss who touched up the odd secretary at the office party is waiting fearfully for that legal letter from some now middle-aged woman – and his life turns to tatters.
That sort of culture was common and one just went along with it – or told the guy to knack off and thought no further about it. Let’s face it, it was the other way round too. Female staff with a pash on a male colleague would seize the moment too. Human nature.
Yes, apparently some were outraged and secret settlements were made. Fair enough. If the settlement was accepted at the time what’s the point of regurgitating it now and jumping on the name and shame bandwagon?
I think everyone is well aware that this behaviour is not acceptable these days and it would be a stupid person to try it.
I know that feminists disagree strongly, but I agree with you to some extent Bassy in that I don’t think it advisable for a scantily dressed young woman to be in dodgy areas alone – as you point out, there are men who would, and do, regard that as a come-on signal. It’s the testosterone levels.
Your last sentence is very good advice. I’m heading off to the bomb shelter…………
Very funny Bo.
I went to a work reunion recently, some 33 years after I left the company. Late in the evening when I was about to leave a woman called me over and said “you probably don’t remember me, my name is Karen. I worked in the typing pool and we all thought you were pretty hot but you wouldn’t have known that”.
I was instantly confronted. Why didn’t one of them make it clear at the time, I was free and unattached back then. Why did she wait until the end of the night to tell me now? I’m long married and now retired, so what was the point?
Don’t get me started on office parties back in the early Eighties, or every Friday night drinks in the local pub. The girls took as much as they gave, and that was a lot.
I know what you were thinking
Be quiet Boadicea.
We at Baptistes Compensation Lawyers are ready to represent injured clients in compensation settlements. No matter trivial your claim may to seem to others, and what could be interpreted as a mild leer by the same, could in fact cause a debilitating trauma which could remain dormant in your system for up to seventy years, before erupting to cause mental anguish. The trauma may have caused you to fall far short of the financial achievements you might have otherwise made.
Let us put things to rights for you.
Thank God you’re here to help JB. 🙂
You just blowing smoke again JB, yes? Or are there a few innocent/harmless carnal indiscretions you’re attempting to get off your chest me old mate, no?
Crikey old girl. Where were you? A FEW innocent /harmless indiscretions !
Hundreds old fellow, bloody hundreds.
It’s the mad uninhibited lusty indiscretions I recall the best tho!.
All with consenting, nay, enthusiastic consenting adults too.
Alternately we could say why don’t men keep it in their trousers/hands to themselves/think before they make that “hillarious” personal comment.
Good point Tracy. It’s more than a pass being made by a boss on some unsuspecting secretary. Did you read what Don Burke said to Susie O’Neill Boa? She didn’t want to get involved at all, until she watched his interview on A Current Affair. That’s when she decided to add her story to the growing number of “middle-aged women” who are now finding their voice. He was banned from flying with Qantas way back when, because of his behaviour. That should tell you enough that the behaviour was not acceptable then either.
You’ve obviously never worked in the media, nor in the airline industry or a lot of other industries where women were considered fair game. Most women have had inappropriate passes made by men in the workplace and most women have brushed it off, without suffering “permanent damage” which was the phrase you used. But it should not be considered as lightly as you seem to think it is of “just men being men”…….nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
I say good on Tracey Spicer for gathering this list of serial offenders in the media. Nothing to do with feminism, but all to do with what should be considered inappropriate and disrespectful behaviour. Far less women are guilty of inappropriate actions in the workplace towards men than the other way round. I think Don Burke’s career should be in tatters. After all it was his wife that got him where he was and all he did in return was have affairs all over the place. Great guy eh!!
Actually Penny I worked for a few years in the record industry in South Africa – and my work involved working with the media and recording stars – mostly international.
I met Rolf Harris once – but he didn’t make a pass at me!
So I guess I do have some experience with the media and I’m afraid that sort of behaviour was par for the course.
I’m not condoning or championing it – it is certainly unacceptable these days – and there are obviously the super-grubs. But it happened all the time. Ego, power and groupies.
Well you see, it’s um, like there is only enough blood in the system to operate one or the other of the …………. never mind.
Doesn’t sound like intelligent design does it? But if it wasn’t so the last generation of humans would have gone fishing and died out about 2 million years ago.
I can’t see how your view has been endorsed, Bassman. Some of these women have been in their home, in a Burke matter, and non doubt there were film/makeup people about.
And there is the rare, very very rare instance where mischievous females will give the poor bugger the “come on” for a laugh or just to get the wood on him. (chuckle, an unintended double entendre there) (I withdraw the chuckle and the double entendre)
Oh! Wash my mouth out, I must have imagined seeing such things happen. All of our women are of course as pure as the driven snow and without guile whatsoever.
I deeply and humbly apologise if my remarks have caused offence.
You have touched on something I was thinking a few days back. A lot of the women complaining about the likes of Don Burke were on their way up the ladder career wise, and I dare say a few may have tolerated, or, shock horror, may have encouraged a little flirtatious behavior from someone like Burke or Weinstein.
No offense ladies, but I have met some women like that in days gone by, very, very mercenary you might call it.
Or did Don see them as easy prey Mack?
I’m not offended in the least Mack, I agree with your point about some women. But Weinstein, Burke and others have used their power to intimidate these women and that is not acceptable. LoTD’s comment was amusing and let me tell you women (me included) have always discussed the relative “hotness” of men. It’s why I thought the #metoo campaign was a little pointless. I have been propositioned lots of times, even by young male students, which always makes me laugh, but there’s a difference between that and the bullying and offensive behavior of Weinstein, Burke etc. My career was never threatened, theirs was. What convinced me was Susie O’Neill relating her story with regard to Don Burke. Leigh Sales played part of his interview with Tracy Grimshaw and it was clear she didn’t believe him, nor did I. Where do we draw the line with regard to powerful men in the media’s behavior?
As for Basmman’s point about women dressing provocatively, what rubbish.
You obviously miss the point entirely BASSMAN.
You’re beginning to sound a lot like that Egyptian-born Sheik a-Hilali and his uncovered cats meat comment. Women should never have to be “defensive and alert” with male colleagues in the situations you allude to, whether they “know” them or not.
Get with it man.
Exactly Carl
Women who dress suggestively need to be ALWAYS on the alert.
And you should be able to walk across a cross walk without looking too. Try living in the real world.
As one pithy remark goes, and I in no way endorse it but I see where he was coming from,
“Paint yer face like a baboons bum and you’re going to bring out the inner ape.”
BASSMAN is right. Everyone should be aware and the human hard wiring isn’t going to change because someone thinks it should for their convenience or safety.
“human hard wiring” – now that is rude JB.
Hmmmm. Kimmie must have realised he may have pushed the Don a bit too far and is backpedalling fast –
announcing his ICBM tests are now complete!
Kimmy should keep in mind Boadicea the old adage “one flash and yer ash”. Cheers
Just got a text from Kimmie. “Tell that running dog capitalist war mongering mealy mouth Henry that an adage is old by definition. Therefore “old” is a tautology and unfortunate. Also we now have long distance rocket and your home address so be careful bad mouthing or you can learn all about this flash and ash real quick time. Same for you, same for false hair piggy eyes groper Trump.”
No fan of the medical funds Bassy but if having your medical records online is not a good idea then I’m a Liberal voter
It is NOT a good idea. You may have some minor ailment as a kid that could be used against you in a job application, more expensive travel insurance or completely rule you out of insurance…they will use any excuse.
Goodness me Mr Insider, my Princess is devastated at the revelations being levelled at her favourite Garden Guru but as I told her we did receive some hints of this on his show like this clip of Pollinating Philodendrons. I suggest if you easily blush not to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CyviFJ8zDs
OMG HB – I’m blushing! In the context of current events it’s a tad non-PC!
My goodness Henry. I’m starting to think I might be a Philodendron.
Le Giant Philodendron perhaps?
Too kind. Le Pettite Philodendron. A delicate flower.
Do philodendrons grow indoors JB? Nice house plant to have around perhaps?
Well they do now. Why don’t you drop around and see my house plants some time?
Interesting link HB…..this girl’s on her way to a nursery right now….😉
Darling, you are awful, but I like you.
Considering the replies Henry i’ll have to check that out when everyone is either out or asleep.
It’s a very funny clip Milton. She looked like she was thoroughly enjoying herself and the philodendron certainly was….
phew!… glad I waited now. Got a few of them around the place and may introduce them as part of my foreplay.
Had a look in the book case for a book I read many years ago, Helter Skelter, must have lent it to someone. It was written by the DA Vincent Bugliosi that investigated & then tried Manson and the crazy foursome. Very disturbing in parts but the guy wrote well, very instructive. He felt that Manson didn’t take part in the murders because he believed it would insulate him from prosecution. Not as smart as some people made him out to be. Never heard of conspiracy to murder it seems.
Here’s a quote from Vincent B in a Rolling Stone article.
“He had a quality about him that one thousandth of one percent of people have. An aura. ‘Vibes,’ the kids called it in the Sixties. Wherever he went, kids gravitated toward him. This is not normal. I mean, I couldn’t get someone to go to the local Dairy Queen and get me a milkshake, OK? But this guy, I don’t know what it is. How the hell do I know?”
Vincent B died in 2015, pity Manson got to outlive him.
It’s available to download, my copies on the IPad
“Aura?” Hmmmn. His long suit was being able to identify and select out suggestible marginal personalities he could manipulate.
Yes, its a pity a similar level of zeal, passion and enthusiasm on display in the Senate today is not present when the URS are otherwise engaged in appraising some of the more substantive matters of state.
Rat cunning I think it’s called, or, to prey on the gullible.