If you listen closely you can hear it. The sound of muffled shrieks and angry recriminations. The dull thud of the slipper being sunk.
It’s not just a fight. It is that most amusing of all donnybrooks, a hippy fight. One not only to watch but something to remember and relish. Forget the Scomobile sans Scomo or Shorten’s manufactured town hall excursions, a Greens stink is what brings the crowds back to politics.
In Sydney, there have been allegations made against Greens MLC, Jeremy Buckingham of sexual harassment, unwanted touching. We don’t know the details and perhaps that is best.
But we know these allegations exist because the Greens MLA for Newtown, Jenny Leong, said so under parliamentary privilege despite a finding of an internal inquiry found the allegations unproven.
Ever since, Green old salts like Bob Brown have gone to ground, perhaps shamed into silence with the certain knowledge that the party of environmentalism has become an unfunny parody of student politics.
I don’t expect many people have the stomach to grasp what is really going on here. It is only the crazy brave who would plunge headlong into the fetid pool of Greens factionalism.
The first thing I noticed in the wake of Leong’s nifty, risk-free use of parliamentary privilege is that those who stacked up with her and those who came out agin’ her were drawn neatly along the party’s factional lines.
If we put aside the unpleasant nature of the allegations and watch who has come out in support of whom, what we are left to conclude is this is a factional battle in progress.
Factions in the Greens? Surely not, I hear you say. The Greens are a united group who gather as one in forlorn NIMBY protests and collectively macramé their own yoghurt. All right, stereotyping saves time but in the case of the NSW Greens, it is not apt. The NSW Greens is a misnomer. There isn’t a skerrick of environmental concern across the party.
Without getting in to the pernicious details or without having to consult the green colour chart (red-green, blue-green, green-green etc) the NSW Greens basically fall into two main camps, – A bit mad on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays while on the other side of the battlements stand the stark, raving, howling-at-the-moon crazy every single day of the week.
In other words, those who have nodded fervently in agreement while reading Rousseau, Mao and Trotsky to those who shun books as the hallmarks of white privilege and would consign the lot to the flame if they could figure out a way to make the vast bonfire carbon neutral.
Meanwhile in Victoria, the fighting has been replaced by calls for peace, love and understanding.
Two weeks out from an election, the Greens, who believe violent language and bad male behaviour is a hanging offence when it happens elsewhere, but when the viciousness is perpetrated by one of its own, it is not just ok but part of an important element of one’s personal development.
The Greens candidate for Footscray, Angus McAlpine, is an “entertainer” who goes under the stage name, Fat Gut. Mr Gut was, and possibly still is, a rapper who used to call gay men f..king faggots.
I thought that language went out when VicPol disbanded the old Squirrel Squad (so called because undercover police officers would loiter around in public toilets et cetera etc) back in the 1960s but then I don’t spend a lot of time listening to rappers.
Gut also knocked out a catchy little tune about date rape, suggesting the date rape drug Rohypnol was a useful tool.
“Got no class when trying to get some ass, put a rowie (Rohypnol) in your glass and wait for a few minutes to pass.”
By his own party’s admission, Gut made poor choices on social media. Oh dear. But in the interests of free speech and all that, he has been forgiven for debasing and vilifying women and gay men in song.
Indeed, the Victorian Greens decided not just to keep him on the ticket but to explain that he was undergoing a “personal journey.”
Victorian Greens leader Samantha Ratnam came over all Tammy Wynette, standing by her man before getting a bustle in her hedgerow.
“A process of change is a journey and there are steps on the way, it often doesn’t happen overnight,” Ratnam said in support of Gut.
In other words, yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run there’s still time to change the road you’re on.
It really makes me wonder.
This from a party that spends its time judging others harshly without wit or wisdom, trampling due process with calls for the sadistic shaming of the guilty, the mistaken, the foolish and sometime even the innocent.
The Greens are a hopeless joke unleashed on Australia’s bloated middle class.
The old stereotype would suggest the Greens’ political existence relies on public concern for critically endangered lichen rather than human beings, but the Greens have moved on from environmentalism. At least with the old green Greens we knew what to expect.
Now, they’ve become a tawdry shadow of the worst elements of the major parties, the ugliest possible expression for the terribleness of modern politics, a dangerous cocktail of sanctimony and cant.
Still, it is a lot of fun to watch them brawling. Get yourself a good seat.
Fight, fight, fight.
This column was published in The Australia 16 November 2018
That’s quite a bit
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/latest-estimate-shows-how-much-antarctic-ice-has-fallen-into-the-sea/
Matter remains matter, Jean. Has that ice turned into water? If so where will its organic journey take it? You would have been a panic merchant at every time in our long history, Jean. And, from what I gather, always on the wrong side of history. If nothing else, you’re consistent, JB.
Well if it gets right down to it you are made from stardust and at some point in the future you will be stardust again Your ability to “gather” anything at all is yet to be demonstrated. I’ll take your glib response as an admission that you are clueless. I could go to some lengths to explain to you the psychological reasons you cant cope with AGW, but lets keep it simple. You have no balls and no brains.
If you had any imagination at all, the red active graph in the right sidebar might set off a tiny bell in your tiny brain
https://skepticalscience.com/2018-SkS-Weekly-Digest_44A.html
Best wishes.
Yes JB, its a pity that its so extremely difficult to work out what the hidden bedrock is doing compared to what the ice and snow at the surface is doing. Its such a nuisance and complicates the interpretation of important surface measurements among other thing. But not to worry, they’re only icebergs after all, nothing new to see here. And besides the chaps on the job will have worked it all out before the next ice age.
No! The important thing is, 2.7 trillion tonnes of Antarctic ice have fallen into the oceans recently. What part of 2.7 trillion tonnes do you not understand!
You have no concept of geological time of course but we are seeing changes that took thousands of years in past epochs happening in just a few decades. What part of…………………….. No, just kidding, I wouldn’t do that to you.
Further to my earlier comment concerning your misunderstandings JB, in the overall scheme of things you’re only being unduly concerned about ice cubes me old mate.
See also Wissendorf’s most excellent contribution at 12.18pm 23 Nov. albeit it references the other big ice block.
So if a one ton ice cube is hanging over your silly head, it is of no concern because “it is only an ice cube.”
You are giving the garden variety dill a bad name Carl.
Alas, the delightful, vivacious Victorian Greens Leader, Samantha Ratnam, will I think not be Premier of Victoria after Saturdays Election, Mr. Insider but am predicting a big future for her as she remodels the Greens in Victoria.
She is very new at the job and has the massive job well in hand, metaphorically speaking.
https://tinyurl.com/yaefttce
Did you mean “figuratively speaking.” ?
Those crazy Greens, not sacking someone for saying bad things in 2010, so bad that even Peter Dutton would hesitate to text them to a journalist. If only they could do sensible things like the major parties do, like expelling the most recent former PM for following an Instagram account.
FFS Peter Siddle currently sitting at number 24 on the wicket takers list in this years Sheffield Shield list somehow gets picked in the test squad. WTF? Dan Worrall from the SACA’s has played 1 shield game and taken 4 more wickets than Siddle. 3 young quicks from WA alone should be looked at before Siddle ever again. Boland and Tremain from Vic. have torn up teams this year. The SACA’s have 5 bowlers who have more wickets than Siddle this year. CA is messed up. Hohns has to go. Langer will not succeed by continuing to pick his mates over guys with actual form and a future. 1 bowler in the top 20 wicket takers is in the squad. 2 batsmen from the top 20 runs scorers are in the squad. India must be laughing themselves silly. 6 SACA batsmen have scored more runs than Travis Head this year and 5 of them have better long term averages. I actually had a chat with with Darren Lehman over a beer a couple of weeks ago at a pub in Perth and it is clear even from that short talk players are not picked on form and averages but are picked on some sort of “good fella” rating system. What also shocked me was just how little Lehman knew about the actual stats of the guys he favored and had selected. I actually went onto cricinfo to show him. I have always been a Lehman fan since before he went to Victoria to play. It is clear you WILL not succeed in Australian cricket unless you are a some sort of conforming brown nosing stooge.
Dismal, It is not often that I say this but “spot on”.
I must begrudgingly agree as well JS. It hurts.
Oh I say! Come on Dismayed. It’s not all about winning! That “good fella” system has served us handsomely in, well, rugger for instance. How many times have we “covered ourselves in glory” when being relentlessly flogged by those “common” victory obsessed Kiwis?
Play up and play the game! Australiah, Australiah, Australiah rah rah rah!
Yup
oh dear. the vic libs fresh from supporting the Greens. Croger could not lie his way out of it on FOX (sky) last night. Have announced they will spend money on hospital. But they forgot to mention the work has already been started by the State Labor Government. HAHAHA. Almost as bad as their incoherent “energy” policy interview yesterday
Here is the business model of the farming industry who have received over $15 billion in hand outs plus other concessions and tax free savings accounts No one else has access to in the last 5 years. this is the tip of the iceberg. More than half ripping people off and over 60% recidivist offenders The coalition governments response. More and Easier access to visa’s without market testing for more slave labour to rip off for longer periods. No surprises fair dinkum unAustralian mate.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/22/more-than-1m-in-lost-wages-recovered-for-2500-fruit-farm-workers
I’d love to see you run a place old mate. You’d last about 2 seconds. No union rules there old son.
Never been in a union. I see you are happy for your cocky mates to continually break the law and steal wages from people who have done the work. Says it all about you. I have run jobs of over 300 people and all were paid for their work.
Ít’s an odd timetable this week, Tracy and I think the Champions resumes. What’s pissing me off is they have stopped showing the Euro games. It was probably that Guthrie women!
Chelsea v Spurs and I know what you and the other 2 usual suspects are hoping for!!!
Yup, Champions League back and everyone has their EPL tips in too.
I wondered about this. I am in.
Talk about torqueing it up, I mean really, you have to have a “hottest” day sometime right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/
OT, can’t understand Trumps cheering about low oil prices. Thanking the Saudis? Seems it hasn’t done the USD any harm, quite the opposite, but what of the domestic industry in the U.S? Bugger it, was going to mention some other mysteries but I don’t think anyone can follow his thought processes, for want of a better description. Seems like the good old Arabian American Company still has lots of stroke.
Trump actually stated “i have kept Oil prices low” then said he and the Saudi’s had done it. He is the symptom not the cure.
It could be likened to Rudds Pink Batts but its Bills Batteries, Pink Batts on steroids, Mr. Insider as “Electricity” Bill Shorten goes on the big spend and he isn’t even PM yet. Strewth
https://tinyurl.com/y76qll37
The story here for those that can’t get the Oz link, Cheers
https://tinyurl.com/y83v3hm7
The insulation program was a resounding success saving huge amounts of energy and thus people money. It was Ruined by greedy small business people trying to rort the system and putting peoples live at risk. the states failed to regulate properly. What is wrong with you? you are averse to facts of any kind and live in some sort of bizarro world. Please dont respond you are part of the problem not the solution.
Bollocks, Dismayed it was a shocking disaster that even lead to deaths. Poorly thought out, shockingly managed and a complete mess was Rudds Pink Batts. Cheers
4 deaths because small business people put their workers in dangerous positions by trying to rort the system. It reduced huge amounts of power usage. The incidence/frequency rate of homes fires from Insulation related causes DROPPED. The Royal commission and your continued ignorant comment are purely politically motivated which shows just how shallow you are. Why are you not screaming about the Hundreds of Deaths in the transport industry since your coalition stopped Safe Rates from being paid. Why are you not screaming about the dozens of deaths in the building industry since your coalition put in the the ABCC what about the dozens of deaths in the Resources industry? Your ignorance on most matters on here says all that is wrong with you and your type. You are stealing oxygen from someone who may actually value add to this nation.
His pin up celebrity MP, Peter Garrett, was made the scapegoat for the CUFU – who remains pissed off to this day.
The deaths were indeed teagic, Henry, and the govt should share the blame, but it was private training providers who failed to properly prepare those kids, and private contractors who sent them up into those roofspaces.
IMO those deaths were an example of why tendering out govt services is a false economy. The lowest bidder is likely the most willing to cut corners. And in a democracy, the government should not be diluting its answerabilty to the people by contracting it out to limited liability companies. There are also the problems of overcharging and corruption.
The public and private sectors both have important roles, but problems arise at the interface. IMO when the govt decides to spend on a program, it should deliver it directly itself.
So TROO…by the way those greedy Liberal installers broke state Occupational Health and Safety laws not Federal-nothing to do with Rudd…what did they expect…Rudd to be in every roof? Hundreds of workplace deaths occurred during 1996-2007 under Howard’s PM ship. No $23million Royal Commissions into any of them. Wonder why? No blame poured on Howard. It should be remembered that not one person who died during the home insulation program was directly employed by the Rudd government and that employers are responsible for workplace safety. Prior to the pink batts insulation scheme being introduced, there was one house fire for every 765 insulation instalments under the Liberals. Under Labor’s pink batts scheme, there was one fire for every 6,158 installations.
A resounding success that was ruined and failed to regulate???
Youve got too many pink bats in the belfrey.
oo I do so luv some moronson Muppetry. mwaahh
Good analogy. Money spent for no good reason–and I await the first house fire.
From Abbott’s Royal Commission into the HIP:
“The data, however, with which no witness and no submission sought to take issue,
shows that the rate of fires for the period of the HIP was certainly no greater than before
that program started. This shows an apparent improvement in the controls and/or in the
practices with respect to laying insulation in proximity to heat-producing elements in the
ceiling under HIP. I have not found it necessary to pursue this issue further.”