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There are lots of problems with the forthcoming same sex marriage postal survey but the biggest one is voters are essentially voting blind in the absence of a bill.

Why do we not have a bill? You’d have to ask the Turnbull government. If you ask me, I’d say the Turnbull government doesn’t have the backbone to put one up and give some useful form of definition to what we will soon be checking the boxes of in the coming weeks. But that’s just me.

Right now we have a fierce debate going on about something we do not know and cannot possibly divine and this, of course, has led to a lot of talk about nothing.

The rather tedious example being shuffled about and one mirrored in the United States is the one associated with wedding cake bakers (they call themselves designers now but I’m not falling for that one) and whether some of them have the right to withdraw their services to same sex couples who are preparing to tie the knot.

Full column here.

213 Comments

  • Dismayed says:

    X-man sells out the nation again to the big end of town.

  • Dwight says:

    So, in order to foster debate we get 18c on steroids?

  • Lazy Lawrence says:

    Celebrating 28 bloody fabulous years on the dole today Jack. Might be time to look for work as don’t want to get bogged down in a dead end life. Then again early days yet.

  • Henry Blofeld says:

    Coal and Same Sex Marriage, Mr Insider, both must be causing PM Turnbull loss of sleep as the Right Wingers of his Party, National Party included, look at him with distrust. A Clean Energy Target Turnbull does not need now. Thanks for coming Malcolm it hasn’t even been interesting!

    • Dismayed says:

      Macrobusiness on the 29% drop in the cost of solar power in the last 12 months. Classic !
      “And, as we see today, prices of solar + battery are falling much faster that -20% per annum.
      Our best guess is that for the countries with the best solar resources (that is, Straya), coal power will be obsolete some time around 2021.Unless some imbecile subsidises it.”

  • Dismayed says:

    It is getting clearer by the day the Minerals council is setting the agenda for the COALition government. Disgraceful.

  • Dismayed says:

    Great comment from Macrobusiness. discussing the deliberate misinformation and hysteria the coalition and its supporters are creating. The Australian should be ashamed of the ridiculous opinion pieces it is running on coal and energy in general. This is Abbotts carbon tax lie 2.0. they have nothing especially no integrity. No surprises
    “The Coalition is today a political cancer that jeopardises everything it purports to stand for: freedom, markets, conservation, and god help any person, nation or planet that gets in its way.”

    • Razor says:

      Doesn’t matter what Labor has or the COALition has what Australia, or the world for that matter, does not have is a storage solution for renewables. When it eventually gets there it will, initially, be prohibitively expensive. We have rushed into renewables by over subsidising them thus making our existing short and medium term solutions unprofitable. We could have sat back, reaped the benefits of cheap power and cleaned up by buying the technology once it was sorted and then transitioning. But no not us we had to virtue signal and now we have a god awful mess. Thanks to you and your kind I might add Dismal. Now instead of just vitriol please explain in a calm manner what is wrong with what I have just written.

      • Dismayed says:

        The price of batteries is dropping at 20% per year. Solar and batteries are already cheaper then new coal fired power. Every report in Every country shows this. The AEMO, FInkel, Bloomberg, Goldman Sachs etc etc etc. Have you ever heard of a Windmill? Australia has NOT rushed into renewables the UK get the majority of its power form Renewables. The UK plan to close all Coal fired plants by 2025 most recent reports say it will be done by 2022. The coalition for 30 years has stifled an industry because their benefactors want continued preferential treatment. Solar technology is another Australian technology taken up overseas. The Government Must stop lying. They know if they continue down this path the next government will be forced to go even harder instead allowing coal assets to run their race. this as usual pure ideology and politics from the coalition. they coalition do NOT act in the National interest. Latest data shows coal is already obsolete and continuing with coal instead of Gas peaking supported by renewable will keep Power Prices Higher.

        • JackSprat says:

          And the UK is building two very large nuclear power stations for base load.
          Ever heard of the whole truth Dismal – I suspect it it is not in your lexicon.

          • Boadicea says:

            At least someone is doing it right!
            No goid saying we cannot have nuclear power up and running in time.
            We’re finished if we don’t build them anyway

          • Dismayed says:

            JS. RENEWABLES see how I have used that term? you are highlighting your own comprehension deficit again. Get it straight I am not against nuclear. I just know it wont happen in this country for along time if at all. Stop looking for shadows to jump at.

          • Dismayed says:

            By continuing to parrot “baseload” you also show you have a deficit in understanding of what is going on in the Energy distribution networks.

        • Razor says:

          Dismayed, firstly thankyou for the adult way you replied.

          The UK and Germany for that matter are heavily reliant on Nuclear power for base load generation even though Germany’s comes from France. Investment in new nuclear plants is far more expensive than coal but do you think this investment would be continuing if anyone really envisaged cheap, reliable mass storage solutions were just around the corner? Further google U.K. capacity subsidies and why these are necessary. If renewables were able to run the race without subsidy then capacity subsidies for coal would not be required. Be assured capacity subsidies is where the big energy companies are trying to push us, this way they get it both ends. I have never argued for the privatisation of electricity assets and this debacle has only firmed my view that utilities should always remain in the hands of the government.

          I argue the pure ideology comes from the left. We rushed in and are now getting burned.

  • Milton says:

    Todays article by Paul Kelly is worth a read. Some snippets:
    “…This is because while many people genuinely see same-sex marriage as an issue of non-discrimination, this was never its essence. It is an ideological cause seeking fundamental changes in Western society, laws and norms. It will continue apace after the law is changed.”

    “…The Yes case bases its campaign on human rights but misses the exquisite irony that you cannot cherry-pick human rights and keep your integrity. As Parkinson said, consistency of principle means those who justify their campaign on human rights need to give proper consideration to how rights can be balanced.”

    • Henry Blofeld says:

      Your Tony a big NO Same Sex Marriage man Milton, staring PM Turnbull down on a couple of fronts now including Electricity generation. Coal not done for yet! Cheers

  • Frank says:

    @ JtI
    Thanks for cutting the last one of mine Jack. It was just sent out of anger. All anger being generated by either fear or pain, well, I dont fear her, so its pain.
    Like so many Australians I have made the heartbreaking choice of placing a parent in a care home. She died there. Now, my father is also dying. Ive just been through admitting he could no longer look after himself in his own home. Even though I provided nursing care for showering, dressing, feeding etc in house. Gardeners to look after the yard. Food arranged. I visited every day. In the end I offered to have him come and live with me, but he knocked me back, and went to stay with my older sister.
    Meanwhile, Ive had to arrange to sell all his things (on request). Hard? Sell memories. You put what is left of their lives in a suitcase and drive it to your sisters. He tells me he will never see the fields again. He’s crying. Then I have to go through selling the house.
    Meanwhile, time passes and he is four hundred miles away now. I obviously visit less. The last one on father’s day. Shook me up, he is a whispy ghost of his former self. He held my hand and told me he is dying, and his kidneys and everything else hurts. The cancer is nearly done.
    My sister has done everything she can to look after my dad, beyond what most people would do. The toll on her is showing on her and she cried in my arms as I was leaving last time.
    Soon dad wont be able to eat on his own, or go to the toilet, or get up to be washed. He is a big man, my sister is a tiny woman. My dad would be aghast if he thought she was going to end up washing his genitals and changing nappies. Anyone but his daughter. He knows he will go to hospital, a nursing home. None of us want that to happen but we are adults, the alternative is he sneaks off on her and quietly dies in the night on her. Golden ticket.
    So, you see, people who accuse those going through this process as ‘shoving their parents in a home’ make me want to scream. Just a bit. And it comes out as anger.
    My apologies for sniping. I’ll remember the opinions of some dont matter, and try to let it go.

    • Boadicea says:

      Getting old and infirm sucks.
      I will not go to a nursing home – ever. I would rather die. Maybe your father feels the same way. I will go out on top.My children know that.
      I have joined Nietzsche’s Exit International and will choose when and how I wish to die.
      Voluntary euthanasia should be legalised. I cannot understand how a government has the right to deny this personal choice made by a person of sound mind.

    • Kathy says:

      Say again honey your point a bit obscure?

  • Boadicea says:

    Sobering thoughts from Michael Shellenberger on the issue of nuclear power.
    Unfortunately Australia is too tied up playing pathetic political games to sort out the energy crisis we are in.
    Go nuclear or go home……!
    The waste issue is nothing compared to the catastrophe that fiddling around with renewables will bring.
    And that’s not just my humble opinion – it’s the opinion of many scientists.

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