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Charlie Manson is dead. Fetch me a bin liner. I could make that funeral quick and inexpensive I assure you.

In the wake of Manson’s long overdue demise there were a great many catastrophically bad opinions expressed.

Chuck Woolery, a former television host and Hollywood conservative does a podcast (doesn’t everyone these days?) with fellow weirdo, Mark Young. It sounds as many podcasts do, as if two drunk men are sitting in a garage with a cheap microphone trying to outdo each other with increasingly stupid takes.

Woolery thinks Manson was an early supporter of the antifa (anti-fascist movement) and further that had Charlie been allowed to vote, he would have scratched a swastika in the box alongside Bernie Saunders’ name. By Woolery’s logic Jeffrey Dahmer would be a Reaganite, preferring to opt out of the expensive food stamp welfare program and make his own sandwiches.

Sadly it got a lot worse. On the other side of the political aisle, there were some appalling attempts to evoke sympathy for the man who facilitated and urged his followers to commit the most appalling deeds known as the Tate-Labianca murders in Los Angeles in 1969.

Full column here.

516 Comments

  • Henry Blofeld says:

    You “Magnificent Bastard” Annastacia Palaszczuk!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annastacia_Palaszczuk

    • Boadicea says:

      History making HB! She’s done well –
      although I think a lot of votes that may have once gone to the LNP got scattered amongst Independents and the Greens. They didn’t go to ON – thank God for that.
      Same will most likely happen in the next Federal election.

  • Henry Blofeld says:

    Our North QLD champion, Bob Katter, says he is having Parliament this week, Mr Insider, even if the hapless PM Turnbull is not. Strewth. He went on to say he would elect a Speaker etc and sit on the grass if need be. Could be a chance for us all to get into “Parliament”. Lets join “Katter’s Ratters”, are you with me folks! P.S. please check your Dual Citizenship status b4 applying all

  • Tracy says:

    England are stuffed, bunch of 🦃

  • Trivalve says:

    On topic – someone I see a lot of feeds me first-hand reports of the goings on at one of the less salubrious schools in our region. There are kids that the staff have already identified in lower primary as ‘Trouble’. The reports include family background and it’s clear that some of them have little hope of avoiding a life of crime given the home situations that they have. Drug addled, crim or even simply hopeless parents. Single mothers with a new boyfriend every week. Ignored kids. Etc. Some of them get into bother with the gerndarmes early on and go off to finishing school in government institutions. Some have mental health issues or psychological conditions that are not dealt with. It sounds appalling. One particular individual whom I was told about was an accessory for burglaries before he was ten due to his small size that allowed him to access dwellings easily. he’s now an adult and has been on the news this year for a collection of criminal acts just as predicted. Few of these kids will become killers but one or two have the staff unsettled.

    What do you do?

    • Dwight says:

      Sadly, that’s why we build prisons.

    • Razor says:

      It’s generational TV. You do what you can for the current but pour money into education and targeted support programs for the future. You also reintroduce adoption and if, as a parent, you stuff up then you lose the child for life. None of the backwards and forwards foster arrangements we currently have.

      • Boadicea says:

        There are wonderful people who foster kids. It can work miracles for the children involved but it can be extremely stressful, depressing and upsetting at times dealing with kids who have been shunted from home to home and are psychologically damaged and “lost”.
        I take my hat off to those truly good people who foster damaged kids.

      • Trivalve says:

        Agree with all that Razor. Have heard some nasty stories about some of the fostering too.

    • Jean Baptiste says:

      What do you do? Cut their goolies off.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04clpd7h0b0

    • Boadicea says:

      It would be rare for children raised in the environments you mention to come out unscathed Triv.
      They are raised to have no respect for the law, themselves or anyone.
      There have been some truly hair-raising events down here involving teenagers.
      And it persists from generation to generation. Hard spiral to break out of. Those that do deserve every respect life can offer.

  • Boadicea says:

    Just listened to a frightening program on the painkiller Fentanyl. Relatively easily obtainable by addicts
    Today’s mass murderer..

    • Razor says:

      I raised it here a couple of months ago Boa. Just back from India where I spent some time with a senior police officer from Scotland. Fentanyl has taken a firm grip there and people are dropping like flies.

      • Mack the Knife says:

        In the U.S. more people died of fentanyl overdoses in 2016 than the whole of the Vietnam war. Big pharma is culling the population.

        • Jean Baptiste says:

          That is more Americans. About 58 thousand US military personnel died in the Vietnam War. Total deaths including civilians in Vietnam Cambodia and Laos was (middle estimate) about 2.4 million.
          Cheers.

      • Rhys Needham says:

        Didn’t Michael Jackson and Prince die from it as well?

      • Boadicea says:

        It killed 20,000 Americans in 2016.
        Tasmania is the only state that has installed a program whereby doctors can instantly see when someone was provided last. The usage has dropped by a third here apparently. Other states are now looking at using the system.
        It is beyond me how a doctor can even write a prescription for the stuff This program I was listening to sent someone along to a GP who bluffed symptoms and came out with a script within 6 minutes on the Gold Coast.
        Seems to me that it is a drug that should only be used in hospitals.

        • Bella says:

          If Fentanyl is an S8 in Australia & 80 -100 times stronger than morphine why in the world would it be so easy to get a simple script & I’d say a lot changes hands on the street without doubt.

          • Jack The Insider says:

            Very rare to get fentanyl by script unless you are suffering most acute pain. There is a dedicated black market of the drug, some stolen, some obtained in other jurisdictions. In the US you can get it in lollypop form. My understanding is the fentanyl available by prescription here requires each table to be numbered but this may have changed in recent times.

          • Razor says:

            It goes from China straight to the street Bella. Exactly the same route most of our Ice travels these days.

          • Jean Baptiste says:

            Razor. I suppose one could suggest, with history in mind theres an element of Karma about that.

          • Razor says:

            Yes there is old bean. One mans opium is another mans Victorian Mansion I suppose.

  • Uncle Quentin says:

    For a long time I have thought that the phrase “Wisdom of the electorate” was just an empty piece of political jargon abused by aggrandising politicians to justify dubious political results. Recent events have restored my faith however. Firstly the overwhelming support for same sex marriage particularly in regional areas and Queensland, secondly the total failure of One Nation in the state elections. The socially conservative backward looking electorate who the Alt Right look to as their power base doesn’t necessarily exist, and the policies that they trot out to pander to this entity deserve to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

    • Boadicea says:

      Agree UQ – seems preferences may have caused some close calls – especially for the Greens. I’m interested in the Bennelong by-election. That’s a big litmus test for the survival of the Coalition.
      But thank God Pauline’s lot have been given a hiding.!

    • The Bow-Legged Swantoon says:

      The alleged homophobia in country areas has been a bit over-egged by people who think that everywhere past the last urban train station is a wilderness occupied by club-wielding poofter-bashers. Having lived in a variety of cities, towns and rural locations I’ve never discerned a great difference in the levels of homophobia between them.

      One of my neighbours is a 70-year-old country bloke with pretty solid socially conservative views and until recently was a lifelong Labor voter of the old type. He tells a story from when he was a bus driver / postman of looking in on an elderly chap on the bus route to make sure he was OK and the bloke coming to the door in his wife’s dress and high heels. There was a brief exchange along “g’day-how-you-going” lines and not a word was said about the drag. The neighbour was – and remains – bemused by it but certainly not hostile. As long as people keep it in their homes and don’t smash it in other people’s faces, most country folk are pretty forgiving. If they think they won’t like the look of something they just don’t look too hard.

    • Razor says:

      Very proud of my State regarding both those results UQ.

  • Dwight says:

    Still causing problems: Battle erupts over control of Charles Manson estate
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/25/battle-erupts-over-control-charles-manson-estate.html
    TMZ reported a man who started writing to the hippie cult leader in the 1990’s was given a will by Manson. The man, who asked not to be identified, showed TMZ the handwritten and typed will.
    Meanwhile, the Daily News reported Matthew Roberts was also given a will by Ben Gurecki, a friend of Manson, giving him the rights to his estate. Gurecki said he was given the will by Manson in January 2017.

    • Bella says:

      It gets worse….A few days ago a group of Manson ‘fans’set up one of those GoFundMe pages to raise the cash to give him a funeral.
      Mercifully, GoFundMe has shut it down now.

  • Henry Blofeld says:

    In what must be one of the toughest elections ever, Mr Insider, Annastacia Palaszczuk and Labor are not far away from forming Majority Government. The LNP under Tim Nichols a total flop and even worse One Nation a “Barry Crocker”, they even lost their State Leader! Malcolm Roberts fell flat on his face a blessing for QLD. The count continues……….
    https://tinyurl.com/y8cqontd

    • Jack The Insider says:

      You want to talk tough imagine having to watch five hours of Antony Green dithering as I did last night. Labor will win 48, maybe 49 seats and form govt in their own right. Quick reminder because the ABC panel didn’t seem to know, Labor entered into the election in minority govt. The height of delusion was Tim Nicholls speech last night. There’d been a six per cent swing against him in his own seat, a seven per cent swing against his party’s primary vote but to Tim it was party time. If that result was transferred to the feral sphere, the Libs would lose five seats in Queensland alone, including Peter Dutton in Dickson.

      • Trivalve says:

        Feral sphere. Was that a typo Jack. Thinking maybe not. 😈

      • Penny. says:

        Thankfully we couldn’t get anything at all on the Australia Network, so checked in with The Guardian live updates throughout the night. They were confused as well. At one stage they had Labor on 47, then dropped it back to 40. I am heartened by the PHON result. She might think she’s big in Queensland, but 88% of Queenslander’s don’t seem to agree.

        • Henry Blofeld says:

          And yet Penny she has now won 2 elections on the trot flogging the LNP both times mmmmmm Cheers

          • Penny. says:

            Yes Henry, more power to her, Anna that is, not the terrible Pauline, in case you misunderstood my post. I notice that MT has come out and said a vote for One Nation is a vote for Labor….que ???
            The man is going mad I think

          • Boadicea says:

            It seems that ON decision to preference Labor rather than the sitting LNP candidate cost the latter a few seats. I imagine that’s what MT means.
            Bit bizarre that the extreme right put the left in!

      • Henry Blofeld says:

        Indeed I thought Antony had lost a lot of his magic too Mr Insider, even his Touchscreen didn’t work properly. Could be Labor may even win 50 seats as the count continues. A massive victory for Anastasia and QLD Labor. Cheers

      • Dwight says:

        Turned it on for a while then switched over to Sky. Once I knew a probable result, I texted a mate in Moscow and went to bed. Hard to believe these consultants are so attended to.

      • Bella says:

        Wasn’t Antony Green a shocker last night JTI…poor you.
        At least I could turn it off.
        Canavan showcased aggressive & delusional.

        • Jack The Insider says:

          Canavan is from another planet. The LNP would do well to hide him.

          • Wissendorf says:

            Green’s commentary was so punctuated with ‘I don’t understand this’ and ‘I can’t explain this’ that I eventually napped off and only woke up well after the broadcast ended. I flipped onto 9 at one point but it was even worse. Canavan likely to be hired by the English cricket team to cast the looming loss as the greatest victory since Trafalgar.

            The Test was one I’ll recall for the dominance of the bowlers from both sides. It wasn’t a batsmen’s Test. Poms looked underdone. But it was an absorbing contest. Well done Aussies. Good to see both captains injecting spin into their attack as a genuine weapon and not just to give the quicks a rest. Lyon and Ali both excellent.

          • Dismayed says:

            Hear, hear JTI Hear, hear.

      • Razor says:

        I watched the ABC on Utube from the QANTAS lounge at Singapore JTI and it was gruelling to say the least. What we did see was the new leader of the Qld LNP, Deb Frecklington.

      • Mack the Knife says:

        Ha! “feral sphere”. Best Freudian slip I’ve seen in a while Jack. Or was it deliberate? Either way, spot on.

  • BASSMAN says:

    Legendary Sydney guitarist Dave Bridge has died. Lives near me.
    Brilliant guitarist and session muso from the 60’s. Was in many famous bands and did heaps of club and TV work.
    Check him out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFjsz2FH4I

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dave+bridge

  • Wissendorf says:

    Intriguing day of cricket. Smith’s innings outstanding. Nathan Lyons innings crucial and very entertaining. The late wickets have put the boot back on the Aussie foot. But the Poms aren’t going to go away. I expect a careful day of batting from Roots men to try and frustrate the Aussie’s and turn the tide that is clearly flowing Australia’s way atm.

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