There are lots of problems with the forthcoming same sex marriage postal survey but the biggest one is voters are essentially voting blind in the absence of a bill.
Why do we not have a bill? You’d have to ask the Turnbull government. If you ask me, I’d say the Turnbull government doesn’t have the backbone to put one up and give some useful form of definition to what we will soon be checking the boxes of in the coming weeks. But that’s just me.
Right now we have a fierce debate going on about something we do not know and cannot possibly divine and this, of course, has led to a lot of talk about nothing.
The rather tedious example being shuffled about and one mirrored in the United States is the one associated with wedding cake bakers (they call themselves designers now but I’m not falling for that one) and whether some of them have the right to withdraw their services to same sex couples who are preparing to tie the knot.
Full column here.
So Paul Kelly thinks that if same sex marriage is passed religion will be driven from the public square. Apart from the fact that the statement is fatuous nonsense, I have no problem with religion being driven out, no more militant islam, no ultra-orthodox Judaism, no fundamentalist christians, no scientology, etc etc.
As far as I am concerned you can believe whatever you want, as long as you keep it to yourself. Just because you have caught something nasty why do you have to spread it around?
HEAR, HEAR. UQ
But hey, no practicing what you’re preaching for you UQ, eh?
Not quite sure what you are getting at here, care to elucidate?
UQ – well if Carl doesn’t care to repeat his limpid point, it goes: “…As far as I am concerned you can believe whatever you want, as long as you keep it to yourself…”. All this subsequent to you not keeping things to yourself!!!
There is a difference between expressing an opinion and forcing your beliefs down others throats.
I agree, UQ but who is forcing their opinion down others throats?
Like the carbon tax was going to be the end of the world when the Liberals GST was higher!
Following the postie now on the bike, he puts the letters in, I takes the letters out. Everyone is voting NO!
Well, SA is going to be an interesting place to watch this Summer. Is the Elon Musk thing going to work – or not? The $64,000 question…..
I see YvonneTas on the other side making disparaging remarks about the great SA JAY and his progressive world leading efforts to ensure the state he Leads has reliable power. Oh and on Nuclear. It wont happen and even if we start building now it will take another 20 years before it produces. We have cheaper reliable new technology now. The coalition and its supporters are responsible for the failing energy market in Australia. The latest hysterical lies being parroted by the conservative in this country prove again that coalition government and their supporters waste Decades of the nations progress.
Must be really frustrating for you not to be able use your vitriol on the other side hey Dismayed?
What fun…
Elon’s Battery Storage “may’ be the only saving grace for SA, Boadicea. It works and has been tried successfully in California by Musk. Cheers hope your French holiday going beautifully.
Wonderful here HB. I am so happy when in France that I think I must have been French in another life
Hope I come back as such in the next life!!
The much vaunted battery supplies about 1 minute of base load power anyway Boa.
The battery is NOT designed to supply “base load” power it is to come online to minimise disruption and frequency spikes until the Gas peaking units kick in. Again you comment on things you don’t actually understand.
Geez Dismal you have come a long way in the last few months.
You have finally figured out what the batteries are supposed to do.
Only trouble is that you need them on more than one wind farm.
More like the $100,000,000+ question.
What could go wrong? Diesel generators and the world’s biggest Duracell.
Wanna cause Green heads to spin? Ask them if Musk is using ethically sourced cobalt for his batteries. Half the world supply comes from the Congo.
Dwight. You were shown on the other side yesterday your continued “cobalt” story is not correct.
What is of concern to me Dwight as electricity prices rise to subsidise all this, the people who cannot afford renovations to their power – the elderly in particular, are going without heat or cooling because they just cannot pay the bill.
Disturbing to read that ISIS may relocate to the Philippines as tjey get hounded out of the ME. Bit close to home.
Watch the Southern Phillipines very closely Boa……..Our chief ASIS man wasn’t photographed standing beside their president recently for nothin!
No surprises.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/turnbulls-energy-obstructionism-abbotts-climate-denial-revisited-22669/
Anyone but me seeing a TA attempted comeback on the strength of a new energy policy?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/snowy-hydro-20-not-enough-to-replace-coal-from-hazelwood-abbott/news-story/bd4d9720289dd8ac76ac5673ce8e5aaa
The same lies repeated are NOT new policy.
Razor amazingly I do see it as Turnbull scrambles around like the dud he is totally captive to the right and left of his so called “government”. Energy the big issue in Australia and the People are watching. Cheers
SSM getting knocked on the head will be the end of Turnbull, Razor. The straw that broke the camels back, so to speak.
Once the results of the postal vote favour no, Shorten will declare if elected he will attempt to pass ssm through parliament, ensuring the return of Abbott – the people’s champion.
Shorten stated months ago he would have a vote in parliament within his first 100 days. abbott will not save any furniture. He will only ensure the split JTI wrote about some time ago. The cons regressive needs and hysterical misinformation are not helping the Liberal party in this country.
Stranger things have happened, Milton. You could be right
A very short clip on the then young Donald Trump circa 1980, Mr Insider. Anyone who thinks he wont be POTUS for 4 or 8 years has rocks in their head imho. Confidence plus backed by ability equals success!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLo14GMYos
When the President was a lad he attended the church of the Reverend Norman Vincent Peale.
That he did indeed Dwight, Trump married his 1st wife Ivana in Peale’s Church. Trump an amazing man and at age 71yo shows no sign of slowing down in any way. Cheers.
Does anybody now how the NSW Council election results are calculated.
It is like the Senate but unlike the Senate one only had to put a “1” above the line and below the line one had to number 1 less than the number of Councillors to be elected boxes. In most cases only 2 boxes.
If everybody followed that principal there are no flow on preferences from group to group to be allocated when going through the elimination process which starts with the person with the lowest quota being eliminated and so forth until a quota is reached.
I cannot find any information anywhere.
LoT 9.25, you would have to change the bonus point settings to take it off.
I tend to leave it for Champions League a full house should be rewarded.
🙂
Tracy, and Bo,
I’m having difficulty getting a post through from Spain. I’ll try again.
I have no problem with the tipping rules, just surprised the concept of a bonus point for a full round carries through to finals. Doesn’t matter in the scheme of things.
We are in Barcelona, and having dinner in the Placa last night were interrupted by a stream of police on motor bikes and in cars rolling in with lights flashing. It turns out there was a suspicious vehicle down at Sagrada Familia cathedral, which was ventually found to be a false alarm.
I must say we are happy to be heading to Portugal tomorrow.
Bonus point is turned off. and always has been. Who got one?
I got a full house Gryzly but didn’t notice getting a bonus point! I think Lou thinks I did. Not sure……
Hi Gryzly, Bo and others,
I’m on the road travelling, but every time I log in to the footy tipping it shows Bo with a “five” for last week, I.e. Includes a bonus point.
Last time I checked it was removed, but is now back with Bo leading by one. It seems there is system fault.
On travel, now in Lisbon. Wow it has turned into a foodie paradise, great place.
Reportedly a scorching hot Summer coming up Mr Insider. Saw reports in the Media that South Australia and Victoria may face Power blackouts. The shutting down early of Coal Fired Power Stations a blunder of mega proportions. Turnbull running round now trying to get Liddell to stay open but AGL may have to make a financial decision foisted on them by the mad Greens and other raving nutters who have stuffed the Electricity supply to Australia. We should not be in the position we are in as we have abundant Coal and Gas Reserves to draw on.
Considering the hot summer and the blog topic here is a gay rights band from the 70’s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHddrxIS3QY for you nossy
COHD where have you been old sweetie haven’t seen you on the blog for ages? Hope you are enjoying POTUS Trump’s Presidency? Cheers P.S. did you run into Jean Baptiste over in Havana?
CoHD good to see ya.
Kermit!
Hey Wraith. Long time no hear/see.
Ive been staggering around in the desert, back now.
Great to see you back Wraith. Hope everything is fine and dandy in your world.
The fiasco surrounding power in this country is a “tribute” to the political process and those who run it in this country at the State and Federal levels on all sides of politics..
Individually none of them could organize a chook raffle at a country pub – collectively they would have trouble even recognizing that a chook raffle was needed, how many tickets would be required and how much.
Some would object to the raffle on the basis of “be kind to chooks”
Others would object on the basis that only unionized chook sellers should be used.
Others would object because by using chooks as the raffle, vegans were discriminated against.
Others would be boycott the pub because the beneficiaries of the raffle did not spread across the whole community.
The Government would stop it because it was not a registered raffle.
Meanwhile the local footy club could not afford to buy balls for the kids.
Well said, JackSprat, bloody hopeless the lot of them but “some” more hopeless than others e.g. the Greens and other leftie nutters. Cheers
“Yes, Minister” in real life. Or Utopia.