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Punters point to a Labor minority government in Victoria

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The overwhelming view is the Andrews government will win the Victorian election comfortably, possibly extending its margin in the lower house, but an analysis based on betting markets in individual seats reveals a strong possibility that Labor will find itself in minority government come Saturday night.

A ReachTel/Fairfax poll published on Friday morning has the Andrews government ahead 54-46 two party preferred. If accurate, this would mean Labor could pick up as many as five Coalition held seats (Ripon, Morwell, South Barwon and Burwood). Herald Sun Galaxy has it at 53-47.

The betting markets, however, do not see it that way.

At present, Labor nominally holds 46 seats in the 88 seat Legislative Assembly.

If we look at the betting markets alone, Labor is tipped to lose the inner-city seats of Richmond and Brunswick to the Greens, forcing it into minority government.

There remains the prospect that Labor may grab a seat or two from the Coalition but on the betting markets, the Coalition is favoured to hold all its marginal seats with the possible exception of South Barwon where the betting has Labor and the Coalition neck-and-neck at $1.80.

I’ve been doing an analysis on state and federal elections for some time now based on average polling figures which I cast across the electoral pendulum to identify seats in play and then examine the betting on those seats in an attempt to predict the overall outcome.

I usually get to within three or four seats of the actual margin even when the results have been something of a surprise. I predicted Labor would win minority government in Queensland in 2015 (Palaszczuk/Labor ended up winning with a majority of two with 35 seats changing hands) and tipped the Coalition to have a majority of two in the 2016 federal election. Close enough.

The problem in the Victorian election is the polling has been threadbare and I am not entirely certain about the accuracy of some of it. This morning’s ReachTel/Fairfax poll has the Coalition’s primary vote at 36 per cent. That’s a decline of five per cent on the 2014 election result. The poll has Labor’s primary vote increasing by one per cent on the 2014 actual. How that translates into 54-46 Labor’s way (up from 52-48 in 2014) is difficult to understand. I presume the polling company has applied preference flows from the 2014 result, but this is vexed.

My view, based on the entirely unscientific basis of speculation, is that the primary vote of both the majors will decline with the minors and independents getting around 25 per cent of the primary vote. That would be a new record in the state. Polling companies face difficulties in establishing a two-party preferred figure based on historical preference flows when the ‘other’ vote is on the rise.

With increasing numbers of voters pre-polling these days, betting markets are likely to be more accurate and offer fewer surprises.

There are caveats of course. The individual seat markets in state elections are based on relatively small betting pools. The bookies won’t let on how much dough they are carrying. It may be just a few hundred dollars or in some seats nothing at all.

No good analysis should be devoid of a little guesswork. I would say overall that Greens voters, damn their oily hides, tend not to punt on elections, this being contrary to their desolate, fun-free view of the world. So, where markets reflect the Greens are going OK, they are probably doing better than that.

The good news for Labor from this analysis is that it is short odds-on to retain a brace of marginals in Melbourne’s southeast, the so-called law and order seats of Frankston, Carrum, Bentleigh and Mordialloc. It holds the first three of these by margins of less than one per cent. In Frankston and Carrum, the bookies have Labor at $1.33 to hold and in Bentleigh $1.20 to retain the seat it won from the Coalition in the 2014 election.

The Coalition may pinch the seat of Prahran back from the Greens but the betting in the inner-city seat south of the Yarra is as murky as the river itself with the bookies offering little better that even money the field.

The three-cornered contest has the Coalition at $2.30, Labor at $2.40 and the Greens at $2.75.

The market shows the Coalition’s attempt to win back Morwell from former National turned independent, Russell Northe is possible although Northe remains outright favourite ($2.25, Coalition $2.75, Labor $3.00).

Labor is learning the hard way the seats it coughed up to the Greens are not likely to come back anytime soon. It lost the seat of Melbourne to the Greens in the 2014 election. The Greens are at $1.36 to retain, Labor at $2.40. In Northcote, which Labor lost in a by-election to the Greens after the death of the sitting member, Fiona Richardson, the Greens are at $1.30 to retain with Labor $3.50.

No joy there for Premier Dan.

My best guess is the two major parties will lose in all seats where Greens or independents are sitting members. Interestingly, the Ipsos/Fairfax poll has the Greens vote coming down, so Labor may yet hold Richmond and Brunswick.

Labor has dragged out the ultimate heavy hitter, former Prime Minister Paul Keating to give its flagging campaign in Richmond some momentum. Planning Minister, Richard Wynne is in the gun. In a letter released to the media, Keating criticised Opposition leader, Matthew Guy, for failing to run a candidate in Richmond.

“Matthew Guy is attempting to defeat Planning Minister Richard Wynne by leaving the field wide open to the Greens. And what motivation would Mr Guy have for such a strategy; obviously to do the bidding of the property development industry, with whom he is so close,” Mr Keating wrote.

I love it when you talk dirty, Paul.

This is the first occasion in almost ten years where the betting markets have been at odds with the polling. It will be interesting to see what stands up on Saturday night.

Be it on polling or the hard earned of the punters, the prospect of a Coalition victory in Victoria is so minute it may only be visible through an electron microscope. But if the betting is the stronger guide, Dan Andrews’ celebrations might be tempered by the knowledge he will be governing only with a nod from the Greens.

This column as first published in The Australian 23 November 2018.

275 Comments

  • Dwight says:

    Looks like they’re about to throw cupboard boy to the curb:
    Julian Assange Lawyers Refused Entry to Ecuadorian Embassy
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/24/julian-assange-lawyers-refused-entry-to-ecuadorian-embassy/

  • Milton says:

    At least the ladies can win at cricket.
    Got up to watch the Copa Libertadores final and a bit of argy bargy in argy so the game called off until tomorrow.

  • Milton says:

    So can we say that in these instances the betting market got it wrong?

  • Razor says:

    After having a bit of a sort through the entrails of last nights Victorian results it presents a great opportunity for Shorten. He has Victoria and the Greens there sown up. Plibers and Albo are safe so the NSW Greens won’t overly worry him either. He has a unique opportunity to move a bit to the right to try and secure the seats he needs in Qld without doing too much damage South of the Tweed.

    • Penny says:

      Good comment Razor….it certainly won’t hurt Shorten to move somewhat to the right because let’s face it most Australians are either slightly left or right of centre.

      • Razor says:

        It’ll shore him up on the two issues which can swing votes badly for him if he tries to be all things to all people. Boats & Coal miners in Qld. The CFMEU will support him on coal as it directly effects their membership.

        His achilles heal is negative gearing in Sydney and Melbourne in a declining market and the franking credits for pensioners. A more educated public understand the difference between state and federal elections. Bill will win but it’ll be nothing like Victoria.

  • BASSMAN says:

    Hmm I was right- I tipped Andrews to win in his own right but a win THIS big is not good for Democracy in this country. The Victorian election result is extremely worrying for Democracy: just imagine it – 60 or 61 ALP seats out of 88! I fear greatly for the Looters! Not only Labor for them to worry about, but Australia-wide the prospect for Independents running against the Looters & winning must be very real. The poor Pastor: please say some prayers for him and his flock! One thing-it just goes to show you how out of touch the Liberals are. This crazy ‘base’ they keep talking about is madness. They have no idea whatsoever who or what their voter base is. What is VERY clear is the mob will not vote for a party that governs from the rear vision mirror, ignores the science of climate change, renewable energy and will not listen to the people. Morrison, Dutts and Abbott must be shivering with fear!

    • Henry Donald J Blofeld says:

      Everyone tipped Andrews to win dear BASSMAN it was just the margin that was out. Cheers

    • Milton says:

      No, Bassman it IS democracy. Of course democracy also worked for Kroger in getting his gig. In his case, forget democracy and set loose the lynch mob.
      For mine this has little impact for the feds. They’re proving quite capable of losing against Bill the battlers battery without heeding any lessons from Victoria.
      ScoMo will come close because Shorten is an unpalatable prospect. Moreover, Bill is such a fraud and a dunce he will stuff up sooner and then later. Victorians are just mad as a result of too much coffee.

    • arrogantqldtwat fanclub says:

      tell newman

    • Milton says:

      Hmm you weren’t right, Bassman simply equivocal (see below). Much like those well paid people playing with computer modelling. Can they predict the beginning and end of the next el nino or la nina – o nono. Sure it’s hep to not believe in God, but to believe in a man made piece of plastic, filled with a man made and soon to be outdated piece of technology filled with man made equations based on guesstimates and recent and confined data and sell this modern day prophetic doomsday shit sounds like a Goebbels wet dream. Let us see the scientist or engineers make, or even catch and store, one lightning strike; or bring to life something as beautiful as a frog or as sublime as a cat. Our existence and the wonders of the world are proof of God, as is our death. We don’t cause, nor suffer from climate change. In fact we are the lucky beneficiaries from climate change. What we suffer from is over population – pure and simple. For starters, all the deforestation is a result of lotsa people; all the massive use of coal, oil and the rest of our earthy natural resources are a result of lotsa people; all the depletion of our ocean foods are a result of too many people. And who’s to blame? Scientists, who as a result of their busy body interference are keeping people alive, well after their use by date and Keating’s calculations. God, in his wisdom, had come up with famines and plagues and wars to keep the numbers down, but no, the scientists (mainly atheists) kept help people keep on keeping. And now they’ve invented man mad climate change when God has been doing it in his sleep before his beard turned grey. Get a grip dudes. The fires, floods, tornadoes, cyclones, hailstorms, droughts, tsunami’s etc wouldn’t raise an eyebrow if people’s houses or lives weren’t being destroyed. And the reason they are is because there are too many people. and too many of them living on arable land.
      I say death to science and praise God.

      BASSMAN says:
      November 24, 2018 at 3:33 PM
      ”Andrews, although he does not deserve to will win in his own right and even if he doesn’t…”. That’s an each way bet, old mate.

      • Jean Baptiste says:

        Theres no point in unpacking you after your “proof of God” science. Suffice to say you have no cred thereafter. but can you get your three neurones together and tell me exactly where God came from and how long he was hanging around before he got the bright idea of putting life on Earth together.
        Did he invent himself? And where did he get the smarts to put it altogether. Has he got a degree in creation from a God University (Send us your son and we will make a fine God upstanding of him) out there somewhere? Like that really worked!

      • Trivalve says:

        Milton, I’m really starting to worry about you.

        • Jean Baptiste says:

          Hey TV you no worry. Milton is clearly in “pre-rapture syndrome” There will be about 10,000 Seraphin flitting about in his skull case at this stage. It’s just an ecstatic event, he’ll be fine, just keep his fluids up.

        • Milton says:

          What, not a fan of cats, Trivalve?

      • BASSMAN says:

        I WAS right Milt. My statement was a response to Jacks’s ” but an analysis based on betting markets in individual seats reveals a strong possibility that Labor will find itself in minority government come Saturday night”.
        Labor is as I said, governing in its own right.

    • Jean Baptiste says:

      Very good BASSMAN. But you must learn to appreciate that the Libs are between a lump of coal and a hard place.
      Voter base? Whatever they can get however they can get it, they are a fully owned subsidiary of big biz.
      I have a great plan for them, it starts off with a big ad campaign selling coal as “eco-stone.”

  • Henry Donald J Blofeld says:

    Michael Kroger you magnificent bastard! One of the prime architects of yesterdays massive Liberal party failure says he will stay in his position!
    Breathtaking in its arrogance. Michael Kroger I hereby award you the “Captain Edward Smith Titanic” Award for 2018!

  • The Outsider says:

    Good on Daniel Andrews for running a positive campaign, running on their record, which is probably the main reason for the big win.

    However, Federal Liberals are delusional if they think that their ructions re Turnbull’s ousting didn’t contribute to the Victorian Liberals losing so badly.

  • petercundall says:

    spinach=the best greens

  • Todd says:

    Mr. Morrison said Labor is going to give us pink batteries Jack where do we get them?

  • Carl on the Coast says:

    Well ……, re the poll outcome, at least law and order was never going to be a serious issue. After all Vic spawned one of Australia’s most iconic heroes, Ned Kelly.

    • Bella says:

      Ned Kelly was one for the ages Carl, a bushranger hero for many as well.

      How’s the Danslide mate, a win for progressive decency over the Liberal’s fear-mongering & prejudice?
      Karma awaits the Fibs if they ever find the guts to call the election.

      • Razor says:

        Kelly was a homicidal, cop killing sex offender Bella. No hero.

      • Boadicea says:

        Gish they are going to get slaughtered Bella. I’m wondering if the mad monk will retain his seat.

        • Bella says:

          Oh I hope so Boa, he’s the gift that keeps on giving. Special Envoy for Coalition Implosion..
          The government’s public reaction to Victoria’s election result is mind-blowing but I bet the story is very different in their private party ‘panic’ room. BOOM!
          I mean, they’ve even got members who now refuse to publicly defend their own party.
          “Stupid is as stupid does.” Forrest Gump

      • Carl on the Coast says:

        Yes Bella, there’s nothing objectionable about a healthy dose of “progressive decency”, as you put it. But its not advisable to go around telling the cops to get stuffed.

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