If you listen closely you can hear it. The sound of muffled shrieks and angry recriminations. The dull thud of the slipper being sunk.
It’s not just a fight. It is that most amusing of all donnybrooks, a hippy fight. One not only to watch but something to remember and relish. Forget the Scomobile sans Scomo or Shorten’s manufactured town hall excursions, a Greens stink is what brings the crowds back to politics.
In Sydney, there have been allegations made against Greens MLC, Jeremy Buckingham of sexual harassment, unwanted touching. We don’t know the details and perhaps that is best.
But we know these allegations exist because the Greens MLA for Newtown, Jenny Leong, said so under parliamentary privilege despite a finding of an internal inquiry found the allegations unproven.
Ever since, Green old salts like Bob Brown have gone to ground, perhaps shamed into silence with the certain knowledge that the party of environmentalism has become an unfunny parody of student politics.
I don’t expect many people have the stomach to grasp what is really going on here. It is only the crazy brave who would plunge headlong into the fetid pool of Greens factionalism.
The first thing I noticed in the wake of Leong’s nifty, risk-free use of parliamentary privilege is that those who stacked up with her and those who came out agin’ her were drawn neatly along the party’s factional lines.
If we put aside the unpleasant nature of the allegations and watch who has come out in support of whom, what we are left to conclude is this is a factional battle in progress.
Factions in the Greens? Surely not, I hear you say. The Greens are a united group who gather as one in forlorn NIMBY protests and collectively macramé their own yoghurt. All right, stereotyping saves time but in the case of the NSW Greens, it is not apt. The NSW Greens is a misnomer. There isn’t a skerrick of environmental concern across the party.
Without getting in to the pernicious details or without having to consult the green colour chart (red-green, blue-green, green-green etc) the NSW Greens basically fall into two main camps, – A bit mad on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays while on the other side of the battlements stand the stark, raving, howling-at-the-moon crazy every single day of the week.
In other words, those who have nodded fervently in agreement while reading Rousseau, Mao and Trotsky to those who shun books as the hallmarks of white privilege and would consign the lot to the flame if they could figure out a way to make the vast bonfire carbon neutral.
Meanwhile in Victoria, the fighting has been replaced by calls for peace, love and understanding.
Two weeks out from an election, the Greens, who believe violent language and bad male behaviour is a hanging offence when it happens elsewhere, but when the viciousness is perpetrated by one of its own, it is not just ok but part of an important element of one’s personal development.
The Greens candidate for Footscray, Angus McAlpine, is an “entertainer” who goes under the stage name, Fat Gut. Mr Gut was, and possibly still is, a rapper who used to call gay men f..king faggots.
I thought that language went out when VicPol disbanded the old Squirrel Squad (so called because undercover police officers would loiter around in public toilets et cetera etc) back in the 1960s but then I don’t spend a lot of time listening to rappers.
Gut also knocked out a catchy little tune about date rape, suggesting the date rape drug Rohypnol was a useful tool.
“Got no class when trying to get some ass, put a rowie (Rohypnol) in your glass and wait for a few minutes to pass.”
By his own party’s admission, Gut made poor choices on social media. Oh dear. But in the interests of free speech and all that, he has been forgiven for debasing and vilifying women and gay men in song.
Indeed, the Victorian Greens decided not just to keep him on the ticket but to explain that he was undergoing a “personal journey.”
Victorian Greens leader Samantha Ratnam came over all Tammy Wynette, standing by her man before getting a bustle in her hedgerow.
“A process of change is a journey and there are steps on the way, it often doesn’t happen overnight,” Ratnam said in support of Gut.
In other words, yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run there’s still time to change the road you’re on.
It really makes me wonder.
This from a party that spends its time judging others harshly without wit or wisdom, trampling due process with calls for the sadistic shaming of the guilty, the mistaken, the foolish and sometime even the innocent.
The Greens are a hopeless joke unleashed on Australia’s bloated middle class.
The old stereotype would suggest the Greens’ political existence relies on public concern for critically endangered lichen rather than human beings, but the Greens have moved on from environmentalism. At least with the old green Greens we knew what to expect.
Now, they’ve become a tawdry shadow of the worst elements of the major parties, the ugliest possible expression for the terribleness of modern politics, a dangerous cocktail of sanctimony and cant.
Still, it is a lot of fun to watch them brawling. Get yourself a good seat.
Fight, fight, fight.
This column was published in The Australia 16 November 2018
Fanta Hair does it again.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/19/make-america-rake-again-finland-trump-forest-fire
All out of context Mr. Baptiste, my Donald just making an off the cuff remark re Forest Management or the lack of it. Nothing to see here move along. Cheers
Bullshit.
Once upon a time, if a fire went through the large redwood forest, the top canopies would not have been affected.
Because of the reluctance to control the under story, if there is a fire, everything will go up and good bye the giant redwood for another 500 years.
Well done the idiots who do not understand what fire does for the forests there and in Australia.
Once upon a time we were not experiencing the weather events that are behind the massive fires occurring all over the planet.
Balls.
Jack, as far as I know there are no statistcs on the proportion of members who have been tossed out of political parties, but me thinks the Gang Greens would be top of the wazza.
What is interesting to note is that in their 26 years of existence every circus in the country has been run out of the business. Hard to compete with such a collection of misfits, oddballs, freaks and wierdos.
And lets not mention that every vehicle I’ve seen with a Greens sticker on the back has been a clapped out filthy old smoking piece of pollution. A bit emblematic I guess.
Just liver venting or transference ?
You run out of cred when you just make stuff up to suit your bias.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_circuses
Bearded ladies gotta earn a living somehow, Lou.
“misfits, oddballs, freaks & weirdos” ?
I don’t identify with any of those descriptors but if voting Greens for many years makes me, in your eyes, some kind of weirdo, that’s on you.
Stereotyping is a strange business I say.
I say, Mr. Insider, call me a politically incorrect wretch but by jove that Victorian Greens Leader, Samantha Ratnam sure is a striking young lady.
A rising Star she has been described. Rising indeed!
https://tinyurl.com/yaefttce
Oh Christ Henry, not you too. 🦃
She has taken your humble correspondents eye, Bella, am expecting big things from her going forward. Cheers
I can see a fair bit of me in her actually Henry……
Golda Meir would never had made the grade with this lot Bella 🙂
Publicly no, privately anything with a pulse would make the grade. And they’d need to be lucky.
I’ve always been a tad amused at the idea that Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull are the smartest men in their respective rooms.
Clearly they are clever enough, but I wondered if it happened because no one else much could stand staying in a room with them for longer than about five minutes.
Tony Abbott, on the other hand, is generally regarded as a sort of village idiot, albeit an idiot who managed to win a Rhodes Scholarship.
Who knows, but what is obvious is that the one of the three who can knock out a readable piece of writing is Abbott.
This bit on Brexit is lively and good,
https://tinyurl.com/ycfvq9vv
There is a reason GB is the worlds 5th largest economy Tony and it wont stay that way for long if they make a clean break. What a lot of pompous flag waving drivel. What would Tony do?
“I would shirtfront the EU, um aaah you bet I would, EU shirtfront my word don’t you worry about that.”
BTW I think Abbott’s Rhodes Scholarship had more to do with his boxing and rugger and connections.
fraud writ large… he’s simple
Frances proves the method
I did take umbrage at Abbott described as a “sort of village idiot.”
Sort of! Give the man his due.
Thanks for that, Jack. Nothing like a bit of clarity. I believe, over time, Brexit will prove beneficial for the UK. Having an unelected and expensive bureaucracy in Brussels undermining a countries sovereignty is proving to be disastrous for the EU.
Turnbull also won a Rhodes scholarship.
I’m guessing Rudd failed to meet the ‘fondness of and success in manly outdoor sports such as cricket, football and the like’ criteria
I’ve said this before, but Brexit is like that cartoon where the cat saws off the tree-branch he is standing on. About now, it’s that moment where the branch has already fallen, but the cat hangs in the air for a second, the saw still hanging from his paw, as it dawns on him what he’s done.
Small rooms. Solo occupants.
So, the shadow Treasurer had a chat with business leaders in Perth today and issued them with a pessimistic outlook for our economy and warned we “must prepare for the worst”. During questioning, he quickly did a back-flip and denied having talked down the joint. This was followed by mingling and mollifying attendees with assurances that they should feel comfortable under a Labor government. However, the shadow Treasurer was apparently coy about confirming whether it would be under the left heel or the right.
I have to say, the back-flip denial reminded me of the ‘economic guru’ on here with the home gym. No surprises.
Geez Fair dinkum I am embarrassed for your relatives carl a more ignorant fool would be hard to find, except for on this blog of course. I know your advancing state makes it difficult for you to remember your idiot cons screaming for six years that the Australian economy was in a debt and deficit disaster before they increased both spending and overall taxation to record highs not seen since Howard and Costello after Labor reduced both. Debt has more than doubled in the last 5 years, Real wages have dropped 4.6% since 2013. Electricity prices have risen over 75% since the coalition were elected. Economic growth has flat lined to below long term average since 2014. Only Government Defence Spending and state government infrastructure has held it above recession levels. You cons screamed the sky is falling in when the rest of the World acknowledged Australia had the worlds best response to the GFC. No doubt you will join the pleasantville Advance Australia party the delusional M. Newmans one, not the Ultra Nationalist group on ASIO’s watch list, then again they are both as confused as one another, much like you. Move along carl your ignorance is evidence of the 3r’s learning. then again it may be a sign of your limitations. Here are more lies from frydneberg
https://tinyurl.com/yahy6yk4
So Dismayed, after offering 15 lines of spittle-laden nonsense and diatribe you’ve still been unable to maturely dispute one word I’ve written. I’ll make no adverse comment about your relatives mate, other than to opine perhaps they are proud of you.
Get off it. The man just unpacked you and put you through the blender.
Seriously Gary, why do you have to throw revolting insults when debating an opinion. You really need to grow up.
Cause that is the way they carry on at the branch meetings!
When I read that, Carl I saw it as a sign of Bowen and Labor being confident of forming govt and preparing the groundwork for the disaster that their policies will make manifest. Bowen is a prized and proven dud.
The ‘debt & deficit’ variables have become so highly politicised it’s just ridiculous mate. The Coalition have endlessly claimed they inherited a huge deficit & they did six years ago, then untruthfully promise us a surplus in a year but have actually tripled the debt, so, like night follows day, when Labor inherit their debt, the Fibs will scream that Labor can’t manage the economy….blah blah blah.
You see how this is going Carl, it simply never stops.
I’ve voted Greens many times because I felt they aligned with what is important to me & what I value most in what once was a fair & just society, however, I sincerely believe this rancid, inept government is destroying this country so my vote will go to Labor. Frankly, even if they only give back penalty rates & throw millions at renewables, I’ll know it was the right thing to do for the battlers. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/labor-energy-policy-ahead-of-election/10519018
My best to you Carl. 🐳
Boadicea. From the previous. I know this issue is dear to your heart but let me reassure you our development on Cradle Mountain is an exemplary work of eco sensitivity. For instance access to and egress from the upper and lower ends of the zip line will be strictly by helicopter, including a quick lap or two around the Lake. The zip line ride will allow the visitors a close up interface with the wilderness while providing an adrenalin rush which will put Tasmania on the map for a desirable type of tourist.
Do you have a map of Tasmania? If you do, a close up examination of the flora and fauna in that region will help you appreciate what a fascinating and enticing attraction is on offer.
Best regards.
Gold.
There’s some similar developments going on in Brazil I believe JB
The Brazilian deforestation has denuded the landscape and impacted on flora and fauna.
Personally, I feel in those areas more heavily visited, good bush management practices and use of well placed nature strips (or even small tufts of natural bush) provide a simple, yet mutually beneficial solution
A good fur coat is essential here. Things can get cold unexpectedly.
Mink? Bloody hell. How about a nice fibre filled Katmandu coat and some thermal underwear?
The rest of you mongrels stay out of this.
You boys are naughty…… no Brazilians here. Too cold.
Too much info Boa 🙂
I believe in high traffic areas a landing strip is beneficial.
A Brazilian map of Tasmania Boa? Well if you listen to some, those darstedly loggers jave already achieved it.
It is I agree really cold down there, for some.
astounding, mosaics of alpine herb fields, and colorful heathland …………………. dry windswept coastal vegetation?
these oz politick greens are not environmentally friendly, which is sad
It really is sad smoke.
Their priority was once all about the environment but not anymore. That’s not to say the likes of Peter Whish-Wilson or Adam Bandt are not empathetic & honest gentlemen which is very rare in politics any more, especially in this country.
I met Peter & Bob Brown at the MV Bob Barker at the dock in Hobart a while ago & I can tell you that their outstanding dedication to conservation causes knocked my socks off & I don’t imagine they’ve changed one bit. Two amazing human beings. 💚
The Greens became an excellent platform for beaten marxists to rally around and continue their fight. Whilst I do not believe there is a coordinated program to highjack the Global Warming stuff to promote wealth redistribution and other Marxist causes, I do believe it has provided a convienient avenue for some of a particular ideology to utilise the environment as a means to an end.
I wonder why when the usual suspects were championing Russia, China and all the other socialist mobs during the 20th Century the environmental destruction wrought by these powers didn’t seem to be an. Now, all of a sudden, its about the environment! I smell bullshit!
I smell the usual right wing paranoid delusions from you. The only one Championing Russia and making reference to Stalingrad is your mate Maurice and he aint no gangster of love. More like a space cowboy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=h66V1hYAjG0
Well Penny, how long is it since you were in Melbourne?
I usually avoid the city and go direct to Macedon, but we had to come in to town today.
OMG!!! Putting aside the horrendous traffic in actually getting into Melbourne, there are at least 15 new skyhigh architecturally splendid apartment blocks – and cranes everywhere since I was here 3 or so years ago.
I’d say there are significant numbers of inner city residents actually. A lot of students in concrete boxes too.
But it was pleasant having a coffee in my old stamping ground near South Melbourne market. Chris Judd and mates at the next table looking smooth.
But give me Hobart in good old oaky oaks any day….. i have become a country bumpkin – big time
Well, at least you had a nice cuppa dearie.
Yep, double shot, skinny capuccino. Can even get a good one in Hobart these days. Fast becoming the foodie paradise of Australia too.
Stop the world, we need to get off!!!
Did Juddy check you out?
This year Boa. I agree with you about the concrete boxes, in fact a friend of mine (I’d give you her name to please Razor, but I don’t think she’d appreciate it) actually lives in the apartment block that caught fire at Docklands due to the overcrowding of students in an apartment on a lower floor.
I love Melbourne, but for a visit only now…..I miss going to AFL matches too, although not sure I could handle the crowds any more. We experienced the brunch crowd at a pub in South Yarra that I used to frequent (it was a bit grotty in those days) and even fitted in with my choice of poached eggs on smashed avocado with sourdough bread. And a fancy coffee of course.
I would move back to Victoria in a heartbeat, except it’s cold, very cold…..
Nope, not going to Melbourne even with my step-son living there. Easier to fly him up here to relax in the sun.
A tad off topic I know Mr. Insider, forgive but excellent Space News from NASA in this short clip from them telling us all the fabulous news they are going BACK to the Moon this time to place a permanent Base on it.
Of course, its still all go for MARS! So many exciting things starting to happen in the world of Space Adventure. NASA I am ready to serve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeA7edXsU40
“This not hypothetical” “This is not about flags and footprints” “After 60 years we are just getting started”
OK lets accept that this time it is not hypothetical Henry. So when do you reckon this marvellous thing is going to happen? A couple of little details like that would help.
JB Buy yourself a good telescope and you will be able to see the remnants of the US moon landings back in the 60’s
Bollocks. We now have telescopes with sufficient resolution to read the head lines of a newspaper if it were placed on the moon.
I cant believe how effective the brainwashing was but so many people choose to remain wilfully ignorant of the science and just don’t get it. And it is so glaringly obvious.
More and more, see those lines I quoted back to Henry, NASA is working on slowly easing the public mind into accepting that the “moon landings” were hypothetical. They have to because they are going to have to explain, as the usual suspects pillage the public purse again, how incredibly difficult it will be to get humans outside of the magnetosphere, let alone land anywhere.
But let me know if you hear of any human travelling any further than say 2000 kilometres from the terra firma. That will be startling news.
To quote Neil Armstrong “……………… it is up you to uncover the first layers of the truth.”
The European and Japanese space agencies have photoed the sites and five of six flags are still flying. Don’t disturb the fantasists.
Lets see ’em.
Mr. Baptiste dear fellow as close as I am to NASA they don’t confide exact dates to your humble correspondent but it will happen. Cheers
If anyone ever lands on the moon Henry, the Russians are in the box seat. They were talking about getting the tech sorted by 2035, which is probably highly optimistic for more than one reason.
Let me know when someone actually sits inside a rocket powered lander (except for the hahaha moon landings” and lands the thing and lives to tell the tale.
Meanwhile enjoy being distracted from AGW with the razzmatazz and hype in the same way they distracted people from the Vietnam war.
The science and fact has been settled, Jean. Man has landed on the moon. I know you’re having fun, old girl, so provide me the details of the 3% in the no camp, Economist’s welcome/
No it hasn’t. I think the figure, US citizens has grown to 23% and rising. Yes I am having great fun. I have put in the hard yards, it’s impossible, think it through you really are just regurgitating and you will never, ever, ever learn to think for yourself.
Which is probably just as well.
Exciting news, Henry but until the pubs get built I think it would be a terrible posting.
Nah Milton, it’ll be like some of the dry camps I was in where we brewed or distilled our own. They could call it ‘Earthshine’.
Got to go to the moon before we go to Mars
Obviously NASA had their best technology in the 1960’s Henry so if I were you I’d hold-off on the resume for now mate.
Yes, well I’m just guessing here, but maybe Nasa’s best space travel technology was back in the sixties Henry & they’re still looking for it.
Best to hold-off on sending that resume mate, methinks ‘aiming for the stars’ may be a long way away….😨🚀