THIS is Australia and we can’t even have a public holiday celebrating national identity and consciousness without having a blue.
The debate has largely been led by buffoons looking for a quick, easy path to self-aggrandisement, a ticket to ride on the media ferris wheel. The advocacy of the ‘no change ever’ side of the donnybrook is about as bold as calling for a reduction of the road toll or a collective finger wagging about the dangers of injecting black tar heroin.
Today an Australian businessman, Ben Beath entered the fray from the other side, offering his staff extra holidays if they chose to work on Australia Day by way of protest.
Alan Tudge, a member of the Turnbull cabinet, said the initiative would make “no difference” to advancing the interests of Aboriginal Australians.
Never a truer word was said. Yes, Australia Day and what it stands for is deeply mired in symbolism. Any change to the date which incidentally would require the consent of the states, territories and federal government — a laughably implausible prospect at the best of times — would require leap-frogging from one particular piece of symbolism to another.
There is no real appetite for change in the wider community. I get it. A lot of people don’t like change. Politically, it’s a perfectly reasonable position to hold but the fact remains if we disliked change to the point of never actually changing we’d still be single cell amoeba, swimming around in the primordial slime and eating with our arses.
Regardless of your view, the simple fact is Australia did not become a nation on January 26, 1788. Rather southeastern Australia became a penal colony. The British loved Australia so much they turned it into a prison. In 1788, this vast expanse of land was useful only to the British as a point on the compass to offload some of the working class trash who had muddied the shoes of the aristocracy by drunkenly cavorting about and stealing their hankies.
In doing so a process of dispossession, murder, humiliation, disease and exploitation of the world’s longest surviving civilisation commenced. If you can’t at least feel empathy towards indigenous Australians, let me point you towards the Hare checklist for psychopathy.
But in the great public holiday barney, this matters little. As the Minister for Human Services said this morning, there is no practical benefit to the lives of indigenous Australians in changing the date celebrating nationhood.
The larger problem is the Turnbull government has shirked practical reconciliation, too.
The day after Malcolm Turnbull rolled Tony Abbott, I wrote an article in praise of the fallen PM and mentioned a speech he made in Sydney in support of constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians. For mine, it was Abbott’s finest moment as PM. It was a rousing speech and at the time, one felt that recognition by constitutional means was a short step away. Abbott may not have been able to enunciate a clear pathway to it but he had made clear his conviction.
While it was a long way off the media radar at the time, the events of September 2015 effectively replaced a prime minister who cared deeply about indigenous Australians with one who, if he cares at all, keeps it well hidden.
The Uluru Statement from the Heart rejected mere symbolism. Rather than the vexed business of specific constitutional recognition of indigenous people as the First Australians, what was proposed was the creation of an advisory body to the federal parliament with the existence of the body reflected in the constitution. The Uluru statement was referred to the government for consideration in June last year.
In August at the Garma Festival, a celebration of indigenous culture in Arnhem Land, Malcolm Turnbull said little of substance and spoke in homilies. The Uluru Council’s proposal was being considered by cabinet. It would need bipartisan support, the PM said. His speech would prove to be a deferral of a rejection, a rejection the PM dare not make in front of a mainly indigenous audience.
Two months later cabinet did reject the Uluru Council’s proposal and handed down its reasons by press release. The rationale was that the advisory body amounted to a “third house of parliament.” This was a falsehood and it is difficult to imagine it was not a deliberate act of political chicanery.
Here is what Noel Pearson, a member of the Uluru Council, wrote two days later:
“The body would be external: a voice to parliament, not in parliament. It would have no veto power. No voting rights. It would not change the make-up of the houses. It would be an advisory body like the one that exists now, except constitutionally guaranteed in terms of existence and hopefully more effective.”
The press release also questioned the outcome of a referendum on the creation of the advisory body. It had the bipartisan support Turnbull had insisted was a prerequisite in his Garma speech but this apparently was not enough.
Peering through the political fog of the decision, the Turnbull government took the easy way out as it almost always does. It was too hard, too risky.
A decade or more of work by some of Australia’s best indigenous thinkers combined with some of the nation’s finest legal minds was flushed into the political sewer. The Turnbull government has set back the recognition process by at least another ten years.
“I think Malcolm Turnbull has broken the First Nations’ hearts of this country, expressed in the Uluru Statement from the Heart,” Mr Pearson said.
“He accused John Howard of doing that in 1999 and he has done the same thing in relation to recognition of indigenous Australians.”
In the space of six months the Turnbull government’s has won the quinella — a rejection of a symbolic form of recognition, by way of a change of date to Australia Day, but what is much worse is the weak abandonment of a more practical and enduring form of recognition.
What we are left with is the morally indefensible position that might is right and white people know what is best for the First Australians.
Tell me, Mr Tudge, how is the government advancing the interests of Aboriginal Australians?
This article was originally published in The Australian on 19 January 2018.
bloody lifestylers
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/nitv-news/article/2018/01/22/hes-idiot-abbotts-first-fleet-good-aboriginal-people-comment-met-outrage
First World Problem
Omg yes.
A new potential World Tennis Superstar has emerged at the Australian Open, Mr Insider, in the form of 21yo South Korean HYEON CHUNG who took out Champion Tennis ace Novak Djokovic in straight sets last night and what a performance it was from young Hyeon who must now be a close fav to win the Open. The “field” is down to the last 8 with the Final on Sunday night. 36yo master Roger Federer is so far undefeated in the lead up.
https://tinyurl.com/ycuwtvyx
We’re seeing the new guard coming through, HB. Bit sad to be an ”oldie” at the’ age of 30!
It’s not their age Boa, it’s the battering they give their bodies. Last year it was Federer’s knee, and Joker’s elbow, and although he thought he was healed, it only took one overhead smash to aggravate the injury. Nadal also had problems, and they erupted again last night, forcing him to retire after 2 games in the 5th set against Cilic. These blokes are just worn out. Sprint, slide, stop, sprint again. The Seven commentary team interviewed Geelong mid-fielder Patrick Dangerfield at the game and he said he couldn’t imagine how long he’d last in the same conditions.
Best of 5 sets for the men is becoming ridiculous Wiss. Especially at Rod Laver in the heat. And it takes too long. Best of 3 long sets (no tie breaks) may be a solution.
My son is trying to talk me into going to Peru, or Panama, one of those countries (to be honest I wasnt really listening), for stem cell treatment of all things! The lad is convinced its the fountain of youth. He’s feeling old and all his sporting injuries are grumbling, poor thing, at thirty one!
Panama. Excellent health care system. Good retirement visa conditions.
I’ve heard it referred to as THE regenerative treatment wraith but as with any & all ‘miracle cures’ there’s no proof it’ll always be successful.
Good on him though for thinking outside the standard medicine box. 🤕
A mate of mine is running a resort in Panama Wraith. Looks special. He’s a refugee from our shattered industry and has had some grief on the family front. I’ll send you the link if you decide to go, could be worth a look.
Lots of cautions issued re medical procedures overseas Wraith. Take care. Some real dodgy stuff going on.
Wraith good mate of mind has recently had the stem cell thing done and is up and bouncing!
Djokovic was clearly not at his physical best but it was a great match. Another up-n-comer of note was American youngster McKenzie McDonald who pushed #3 seed Grigor Dimitrov to the 5th set and eventually lost 6-8. He wouldn’t lie down. One to watch, a great player of the future.
I think a few of them may think twice about coming next year, Wiss – the extreme heat and the unforgiving court surface makes it downright dangerous at times. Too many injuries.
In that weather matches should start at 7am – but it’s all about the TV dollars and prime time viewing.
Something’s got to give…..
Excellent conditions for a tennis tournament. Weeds out the pansies. Too many precious little pansies with a sense of entitlement in tennis these days.
OT , apologies. “The Super-rich And Us.” The excellent Jacques Paretti doco currently screening on the ABC. First episode can be found on you tube. Thatcher and Reagan fans can be introduced to reality free of charge.
Wonderful to see you taking a close interest Mr Baptiste in 2 former great world leaders in Thatcher and Reagan, sure makes for a better change than your doting on murderous tyrants like Kim Jong-un and the Castro’s. Cheers
Not according to the analysis Blofeld.
You will be green with envy Henry, in the category of “things you would never dream of finding at a flea market”, I hauled home Sunday for just 50 bucks a copy of “Vallankumosken Taide.”
Cuban revolutionary movie poster art 1959/70 . Magnificent! very collectable. a collaboration between McGraw Hill and a Finnish publisher.
Lost on a flag waving peasant like you of course but I’m sure you are happy for me anyway.
Cheers.
Yes I saw that Jean and it has been on before but not sure if I’ve seen part 2. I could have sworn I saw Henry Blofeld in the background driving past in his Bugatti. Judging by his hat he must have been on his way to Royal Ascot. Another show I think you would have liked was a doco on the Yes Men.
Blofeld at Ascot? Oh Christ, they haven’t gotten over John Kerr yet.
Any post longer than a couple of sentence will not get through…..CIA? Pine Gap?. ONA? ASIO?
Given up…been like this for 3 days.
I’ve has a similar experience BASSY. Can’t get a comment up. Only “LEAVE A REPLY” comment.
Not trying to post from Twitter are you?
No.
That was for Bassy before your post appeared Carl. I’m aware that you wouldn’t trifle with such frivolity.
A paragon of virtue and truth, you have become a dangerous man BASSMAN. My source in New Haven tells me that that you have come to the notice of The Skull and Bones Society and they have instructed their lobbyists to use their powerful influence to have you silenced or at least curbed.
It comes with the territory, be proud of what you have achieved and keep plugging away. When the S&B are on your case you are close to sainthood.
I think Rodent may have dobbed you.
No ….I dnt do ANY social media, twitter arsebook etc….these are very dangerous places for all sorts of reasons.
nbn
“nbn” ? How so?
Turnbull.
Turnbull would have to be one of our most spineless PM’s. He redefines mediocrity.
But back to the topic at hand, and something close to Malcolm’s heart, the idea of change to Australia day has been linked recently to the day when we purportedly become a republic. Not that it matters much but i could be dead by then and the Queen most certainly will be. Despite my demise i’m not so sure that a vote/plebiscite on the republic would gather the majority that the SSM vote did. Hence a day informed by division.
The way things stand this debate (?) on the date will resemble the film Groundhog day, without the pleasantries.
What the convicts, bushrangers, swagmen, explorers, trackers etc would make of all this is anyone’s guess.
I reckon make it February 29
Or maybe August 29:
In Affectionate Remembrance
of
ENGLISH CRICKET,
which died at the Oval
on
29 August 1882,
Deeply lamented by a large circle of sorrowing
friends and acquaintances
R.I.P.
N.B.—The body will be cremated and the
ashes taken to Australia.
Maybe we should just cancel it until everyone sits down and comes to an agreement. What could be more Australian than spending a day at work. And it would send a good message to the kids.
“What could be more Australian than spending as day at work?”
Have you done that Milton? Did it feel “Australian” to you.
Agree Milton, Turnbull a wishy washy wally at best certainly not fit to be a QLDer like us is he. Turnbull may resort to Postal Survey Government in light of his spineless attitude to decision making. Say, Mr Baptiste very quiet so far on AGW, thought he would have let rip by now. Cheers
Oops sorry! A bit preoccupied at the moment .
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/11/climate-change-activists-want-punishment-for-skept/
As a good humanitarian I agree, it will be the only way to save them from the lynch mobs.
If I put a post up HALF the size of this it will not come up…why? I must be on some sort of word count algorism?
Me too Bassy, could be something to do with logins being compromised due to insecure connections.
Thinking of penal colonies, there’s a very good series on RN at the moment- interviews with serving prisoners in the USA.
The three strikes policy in the state of California makes transportation seem tame in comparison! 30yrs to life for armed robbery. The guy driving the getaway car got 31 years. They don’t muck about, that’s for sure. Golly one can kill someone here and get away with 10 years or less if you can afford a good lawyer.
Wondering if it has decreased crime rates significantly.
The getaway driver probably got an extra ten years for driving on the wrong side of the road
Basically Boa, the argument is that as young men commit most of the violent crimes, that if you keep them until they are no longer young, the rates will go down. The best piece of research I know of is here: http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
Listening to them was rather sad, Dwight. They seemed nice blokes – although they probably picked the nice guys for the interview.
One guy (the getaway driver) discovered he had a 23 yr old daughter and had brief contact until she went her own way. He has heen in San Quentin 20 odd years and has 11 to go. After being raped he has lost hope and reckons suicide is a real option.
Thing is, how on earth can these institutionalised prisoners be rehabilitated into society at an advanced age. They probably reoffend in order to go back. Does anyone care?
Yes, that would be the corporate shill promoter of privately owned prisons and notable AGW denier.
Quite the researcher. I suppose the natural extension would be to keep them in prison till the cost of keeping them alive in their old age outweighs the business incentive to keep them inside. They could even have an exchange or auction of viable prisoners. What would be the value of an eighteen year old with earning potential for thirty years be worth I wonder?
https://shameproject.com/profile/steven-d-levitt/
That is an interesting read Dwight. Thanks.
It does seem that increased incarceration and the increased implementation of the death penalty have played a role in what is an astonishing drop in the crime rate in the USA.
His opinion that the legalisation of abortion has played a role is something one wouldn’t really think of. But he makes a strong argument for the case.
Something he mentions that he has not researched is the decreased levels of lead in the system after the introduction unleaded fuels. That’s lateral!
But he does predict a possible rise again due to ”crack babies” i.e. children, no into their late teens, who have been exposed to crack in utero or in violent childhood domestic situations.
Which leads me to think that may be what is emerging in Melbourne. Teens who have certainly had a violent childhood combined with the scourge of methamphetamine.
Maybe they do need to implement tougher penalties – lax bail conditions are clearly not the answer.
You people are so pig ignorant it is astonishing. you will latch onto anything that confirms your already held disgraceful bias. your ignorance sickens me. I posted a report last week showing the explosion in people being held on bail in the last 5 years. You are not fit to be in Australia with your pig ignorance.
substance-insults-no wonder you are dismayed, or is it the other way around?
Oh do calm down you angry little man.
Jack, do we really need to put up with this? Sorry mate.
JB’s not that bad. I thought you liked him?
Come on Dismayed…..enough
You’re getting a bit testy Dismal. Starting to wonder what the missus is doing while we’re away are we?
And now he is deciding who is fit to be in this country!! I do wish someone would make up his mind for him or he’ll be forever dismayed.
A bit of boo-hoo poor us going on here. Conservatives, you just cant see yourselves can you?
Trump and Levitt?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7757429-if-we-could-learn-to-look-instead-of-gawking-we-d
I admire your loyalty Jean, but your mentoring skills seem wanting.
Leavitt is one of the brightest economists I can think of. Basically his MO is taking the analytical techniques of economics to real world problems. That abortion finding ticked off both sides of the debate, as you might guess. I’ve been through a couple of his papers on the topic and I can vouch for his stats. Read his Freakonomics books. Fascinating.
“Leavitt is one of the brightest economists I can think of.”
And I thought you’d say something nice about him.
I know, all those numbers JB. Intimidates some.
So you say. Seems like your man is quite the “artiste” with numbers Dwight.
https://shameproject.com/profile/steven-d-levitt/
Oh yes! The land of the free.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/politics/private-prison-department-of-justice/index.html
WHy just criticise America? This funded by the Prison Officer’s Union of WA
https://sydney.edu.au/business/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/269972/Prison_Privatisation_in_Australia-_The_State_of_the_Nation_June_2016.pdf
OK, but the issue at hand is incarceration rates. Have a butchers at this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
In a breathtaking interview with Ray Hadley the ex ousted PM Tony Abbott informs us all that the “First Fleet was ‘good’ for Indigenous Australians”. I do wonder, Mr Insider, what the Aboriginal peoples of the late 1700’s/early 1800’s would say to that statement? Looks a Barry Crocker of a start to 2018 for Abbott following a shocking 2017 and still the Aussie Taxpayer pays his feed bill.
https://tinyurl.com/ydaphwt9
You seem to be indulging in a spot of Dreamtime yourself HB.
Bless you Carl I know you are an Abbott devotee but am sure that’s your only vice. Cheers
For starters Henry I recommend you give old Ray Hadley a miss. There are stronger drugs you can get prescribed by your GP or from your local (tell em Milt sent you) than having to get a dose of him.
The fact of the matter is that Abbott actually spent vis a vis time with remote indigenous people. Not just for a picture. He did this before and during his term as PM .
Not sure many pollies have done this, or contributors on here, unless it was part of their job.
For all his clumsy faults, Abbott’s heart, intellect and energy surpasses all that resides in oz politics, and media/journalism today. He is our only progressive politician,
Meanwhile SHY has headed off to Davos!!!???
I know you are an Abbott devotee as well as dear Carl, Milton and what you say is essentially correct but fancy say it close to Australia Day a day Indigenous peoples are offended by. Mercifully Abbott is now yesterdays man thank god. Cheers
Good old Milton. Never misses a chance to have a crack at people who care. Unless they are Tony Abbott whom we presumes cares. Heart, intellect and energy? It probably would appear that way to you Milton.
But then you wouldn’t have had a moments self doubt in your life would you?
Heres your genius in action again.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/nitv-news/article/2018/01/22/hes-idiot-abbotts-first-fleet-good-aboriginal-people-comment-met-outrage
Todays cut and paste may be worth a read Jean.
As for that Abbott article, what a beat up.
Why?
Think about it Jean. Abbott’s a backbencher. What he has to say on the first fleet and its historical import wouldn’t make the light of day if it followed the rules of political correctness. It didn’t so they get a couple of clones who disagree with him and quote them calling him names. No other views entered into. If you consider that news fair enough you’re easily impressed.
History generally involves change Jean, some or a lot of it not pleasant. Our survival is informed by adapting and overcoming adversity. Look back in any of our ancestors history and for the most part it will be punctured by adversity. Rather than wallowing in a past that can’t be undone you might want to focus your energies on a positive future.
Oh for God’s sake! Everybody, get in step with Milton’s willy wally Pollyanna convenient world.
Abbott is an insensitive idiot. Face it.
Milton=Oxygen thief.
I did some quick research as suggested by Jack and May 9, 1901 and the weeks before and after, throughout the land, were indeed a momentous occasion. Online there are some good pics to be seen and also Tom Roberts massive painting.
Perhaps one of the many reasons we are “clueless” about our history is that Australia Day, as it stands, pretty much coincides with the first week of the school year and the little, or abbreviated, teaching on the subject is somewhat lost as a result.
I should add that the justification provided here for changing the date of Australia day to May 9 seems more compelling to me than any other I have heard.
If anything else is needed, having oz day in January puts paid to anyone’s new years resolutions in month one.
As an immigrant to this country, Milt, something that struck me was the complete absence of any education on Aboriginal history. It was as if they didn’t exist. They had been erased.
Goodness, even in that bastion of apartheid where I lived we studied the history and achievements of the black tribes of Africa, their culture etc. at school.
The aboriginal history, their dreamtime legends and art are wonderful. Things may have changed but an entire generation or two grew up in ignorance.
Newly arrived, one of my bosses here used to tease me about my SA racism – my retort was always “Australians are more racist than anyone I knew in Africa!” And I meant it!
March 3rd. “The Australia Act ended all power of the UK Parliament to legislate with effect in Australia – that is, “as part of the law of” the Commonwealth, a State or a Territory “