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Barnaby Joyce, Malcolm Turnbull split in spectacular style

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Let me take you back. Way, way back to the evening of December 2, 2017. The Prime Minister and his deputy stood arm in arm at the West Tamworth Leagues Club. Joyce had just won the New England by-election by a thumping margin and Turnbull declared he was “putting the band back together.”

Ah, good times.

Alas, rock stars and politicians are, if nothing else, a difficult and unpredictable lot. Velvet Underground reformed and got halfway through a European tour in 1992 before the band’s two enormous egos, Lou Reed and John Cale, remembered why the band had split up in the first place. The two men hated the sight, let alone the creeping presence, of one another. The tour and the reunion ended abruptly, and Reed and Cale went their separate ways.

The Turnbull-Joyce combo did not come to grief because of crippling personality conflict. although it may do so at some time in the near future. But back then the band had only broken up when Joyce discovered his unfortunate New Zealand-news. We subsequently learned the High Court did not so hold and Joyce was off to a by-election that on the parliamentary numbers at least, threatened the Turnbull government’s majority.

Full column here.

1,092 Comments

  • Huger Unson says:

    You’re never too old to learn something new, Jack. Here’s what I picked up yesterday, from Sharon Davis at https://twitter.com/AETLCEWA/status/965748587970772992
    “Aboriginal English is NOT: 1. broken English; 2. an indicator of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder; 3. slang; 4. a speech disability; 5. OK for non-Aboriginal people to speak; 6. something that we should be ashamed to speak, any time, any place; 7. to be taken from our children.”
    I’ll leave you to look up “Australian Aboriginal English” and wonder when QandA will be conducted entirely in one or many of its variants.
    As if kids have more than enough time to learn the essentials for living in Australia in 2018.

  • BASSMAN says:

    Headline:-3 electrocuted one dead working up top a pole fixing power lines. Coroner has blamed the boss for not training his staff. Smell anything yet? Not a word from any Liberals…well it is the same as pink batts. Greedy batt installers, in the main Liberal voters, not training their youngsters on the job. Expect the Looters to call a RC @ $55million? Pigs Harp they will….no votes in it. Can’t blame Labor!

    Now it all comes out. So eager was Turnbull to take the gig from Abbott, he signed over all of his decision making including the best of the spoils of office to The Bonking Beetroot in a hidden secret deal that we are not allowed to know anything about. Voters did not vote for this and Stan should make it an election issue whenever it is called. The deal in fact diminishes the PMs control of his own executive (e.g. the PM cannot sack his Deputy) thereby restricting his governing. The Looters were conned alright by a bunch of straw suckers!

    • Razor says:

      You continually miss the point Bassy the difference is the 3 unfortunates you point to were not electrocuted as a result of Government policy as was the case in the pink bats fiasco.

      • Trivalve says:

        It was four and it was their lack of training and cavalier attitude from their bosses.

      • Dismayed says:

        More of you usual hysterical dishonest rubbish. you are a disgrace.

      • BASSMAN says:

        Mate they were electrocuted because they were not trained or properly supervised. That came out in the Royal Commission.
        Hundreds of workplace deaths occurred during 1996-2007 under Howard’s PM ship. No Royal Commissions into any of them. Not one person who died during the home insulation program was directly employed by the Rudd government . Note:-employers are responsible for workplace safety. You expect Rudd to be in every roof? There were no fires in 99.98% of the million ceilings insulated and 10,000 jobs were created. Just 2 in 10,000 installations had fires and just 30 had structural damage mostly caused by greedy installers rushing for the quick quid. Prior to the pink batts insulation scheme being introduced, there was one house fire for every 765 insulation instalments under the Liberals. Under Labor’s pink batts scheme, there was one fire for every 6,158 installations.

      • The Outsider says:

        Razor, what was the Australian Government policy that caused the electrocutions?

        The Pink Batts program had some major issues. However, even though the deaths of four installers made the biggest headlines, in itself it was unremarkable, as the number of fatalities per installation under Pink Batts was significantly lower than for Australian installations, generally. In any case, safety was/is regulated by the states, not the Commonwealth.

        The real tragedy about Pink Batts was that a large proportion of installations were botched, thus doing little to save energy and reduce greenhouse emissions – a massive waste of money. This sort of thing is bound to happen when an agency that has little experience in service delivery takes on such a role.

        • Carl on the Coast says:

          That just about sums it up TO. BASSMAN can quote all the rubbery figures he likes, but the RC found it was “a litany of failures arising from a dysfunctional culture in the former administration.” And it cost over 3 billion dollars.

      • Jean Baptiste says:

        Have a think about that Razor.

        • smoke says:

          a barracker will not think

        • Milton says:

          i’ve had a think about that, jean and see that Rudd and labor delivered a pitiful amount of deaths in the ceiling installations but by goodness didn’t they excel all expectations in the number of young kids bones at the bottom of the ocean.
          yeh, i know jean that you don’t have the balls, let alone ethics, to acknowledge the deaths and numbers of people in detentions centres that were the result of the rudd disaster

    • Boadicea says:

      That’s employees of one negligent employer,Bassy.
      The pink batts thing was a different fiasco.
      Employers, seeing mega dollars to be made, stocked up with the stuff and employed unqualified kids to install it.
      After a few kids got electrocuted Rudd pulled the pin, made Peter Garrett the scapegoat, and the contractors were left sitting on huge stockpiles.
      A disaster from one of Kev’s back of the envelope schemes.

      • Penny says:

        God it would be nice if you did some research sometimes Boa. You constantly come out with stuff that you might have read somewhere or heard on RN…..think for yourself for once. and stop parroting blatant propaganda. The Pink Batts program was terrible, but so too are the deaths of a number of young tradesmen who died because of unsafe work practices under the Howard Government. Besides a lot of these programs are State and Territory administered. A young electrician fixing our aircondioner in Darwin a few years ago, almost died because the house had faulty wiring and he was electrocuted. Thank God I knew what to do and he survived….yes a bad employer but there are a lot of them around. It doesn’t matter who is in govetnment, it’s unscrupulous employers who will take advantage of every government initiative.

        • Boadicea says:

          Your last sentence summarises exactly the point i was making. Well done.

        • Carl on the Coast says:

          I say Penny, I don’t see how the reference to alleged workplace fatalities under the Howard government administration devalues the quite accurate summary of the HIP proffered by Boa.

          To accuse her of “parroting blatant propaganda” is a bit over the top. For you juxtapose a Labor government program, described as “a $2.8 billion frenzy of unsafe and unsupervised work by untrained workers”, with unspecified workplace events under a LNP government some years prior, one may be excused for observing your “political slip” may be showing on this occasion when perhaps it shouldn’t be.

          • Boadicea says:

            https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/12/peter-garrett-repeats-attack-kevin-rudd-megalomania-vanity

            I don’t let it worry me Carl! I like to think for myself actually – and form my own opinions on what I see. I don’t need to cut and paste or parrot blatant propaganda as Dismayed does.
            RN is a very good station. Funnily enough, if I’m having a sleepless night for some reason, I often hear the best programs between 2 and 4am!!
            Penny has decided I am an ignoramus and likes to press the point. No drama.

          • Penny says:

            Not at all Carl. No-one should make political capital of work place deaths, which all those who make comments about the Pink Batts scheme are doing. We’re not talking about some years prior here, we’re talking about unsafe work practices in the here and now. As I said quite clearly the Pink Batts scheme was unfortunate, but you can’t keep bringing it up and accusing Kevin Rudd of evil doings, while conveniently ignoring the current (no pun intended) issues. That to me is parroting blatant propaganda while remaining silent on the latest deaths that Bassy is talking about. It gets back to the hypocrisy that I really do have an issue with…

      • Trivalve says:

        It was a Howard government idea they pulled off the shelf.

        • Boadicea says:

          ….and had the Rudd government administering it unfortunately. Peter Garrett’s book reveals what it was like working for the man. And there were a few more with the same sentiments

      • Dismayed says:

        You have no concern for the ‘Truck drivers and the many people that die in construction and resources. You and your mates here are toxic and live in a delusional echo chamber you fail this Nation daily. No surprises.

  • The Outsider says:

    It’s good – and very surprising – to see Trump move on gun control: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-21/trump-urges-ban-on-gun-devices-like-bump-stocks/9469410

    I hope that this move goes beyond lip service.

  • Henry Blofeld says:

    Just before we go to a new Blog topic, Mr Insider, would like to post this NASA report, very detailed indeed, from 1973 re the Van Allen Belt, the Belt sweet Mr Baptiste says no one can go through. I urge you to read it Mr Baptiste and the Summary is as follows: “Radiation was not an operational problem during the Apollo Program. Doses
    received by the crewmen of Apollo missions 7 to 1 5 were small because no major
    solar -particle events occurred during those missions. One small event was detected
    by a radiation sensor outside the Apollo 12 spacecraft, but no increase in radiation dose
    to the crewmen inside the spacecraft was detected.”
    https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tnD7080RadProtect.pdf

    • Jean Baptiste says:

      Sounds very Nixonian to me Henry.
      You’d better let this bloke know eh?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBBUwdyz4I

      Come on Henry , wakey wakey.

      • Henry Blofeld says:

        I now see what dear Carl On The Coast goes through with your AGW arguments Mr Baptiste. Bless you dear Sir you do put the “W” into wally but we love you and am sure you will never change your position on anything you believe even when presented with cold hard evidence as I did here. Cheers

        • Jean Baptiste says:

          Theres a bloke from NASA telling you what they have to do before they send humans out there and you insist your “cold hard evidence” which is clearly horse %$%& still has some credibility.
          For God’s sake Henry they declared the moon was a s dry as a chip and the Italians of all people proved that was a load of horse %^$% too without even going there.

          You simply cant believe you have been deceived, which is a gross overestimation of intelligence. Logic defers to established belief, in this case brainwashing.
          Do you honestly believe anyone other than the work experience janitor kid working at NASA believes for one moment that men landed on the moon?

          It’s a no brainer, you are eminently qualified, why don’t you get it?

  • Bella says:

    Following in the inglorious footsteps of Joyce & Christensen we now see Mr Fossil Fuels himself, the angry Matt-Coal-Canavan caught out rorting the system by failing to declare a half-million dollar home.
    Liars. Cheats. Leeches.
    But, but, maybe his mum did it…😠

    • Henry Blofeld says:

      This is a chaotic government lurching from one mess to another, Boadicea, sadly the only answer seems to be Bill Shorten as PM. Cheers

    • Henry Blofeld says:

      Sorry meant “Bella”. Cheers

    • Tract says:

      Both sides do it Bella, they’ve all got their snouts in the trough.

      • Tracy says:

        “Tracy”…… for goodness sake!
        Australia just finished 6th in the cross country relay out of eleven countries but not to be sniffed at.
        Wish they would get rid of the Korean K-Pop singers currently mauling “we will, we will lock you” high pitched and flat to boot…….Freddie would be dismayed!

    • Penny says:

      Interesting thing today Bella and this is a topic that is included in a research paper I’m writing is that Australia has slipped to 13th place in the global transparency index from 5th in 2012. As most of you know I have taught in countries that were well down the transpary scale over the years and I used to feel a little smug about Australia’s position.
      One of the reasons that has been put forward as to why we have fallen is that politicians have been found to be less trustworthy than in previous years……and before you all jump up and down and point partisan fingers, remember it is not important which party these politicians represent, but the perception that our political class has lost credibility with the Australian people that is concerning here.
      However New Zealand still maintains it’s high rating, maybe we can learn something from them.
      ps….can someone tell Barnaby that despite his new partners so-called experience in media relations, playing the victim card has not worked. Try another tactic.

    • Dismayed says:

      Yes Australia has dropped 8 places in the corruption measures in the last 5 years. The coalition are the most corrupt government this nation has ever seen. No surprises.

      • Lou oTOD says:

        You dont know the difference between transparency and corruption? Stop being a practicing idiot.

        • Penny says:

          Of course I do Lou, what is the matter with you? In case you missed the main point of my post it’s something I’m doing a research paper on and therefore I do know what I’m talking about. I was not obviously going to go into the whole background of the paper. I realize you’ve been ill, but stop being such an arsehole. You’re quite happy to shove your what you think are your superior opinions down our throats, but you’re very aggressive towards people who may differ. We all have our problems Lou, and you have told us yours, but maybe you need to try to take a step back and think about how much your demeanour has changed. I have had better and more intelligent people abuse me on this blog Lou and my advice to you would be from now on is not to read my posts…..but do not speak down to me bucko…..OK!!

          • Milton says:

            Lou was responding to Dismayed, Penny as Dismayed thought it clever to misinterpret your topic of transparency to corruption and Lou corrected him on corrupting the language.

          • Lou oTOD says:

            I was talking to Dismayed for his stupid comment, not you Penny. Follow the link without the sanctimony.
            But while you’re at it, youve flown off at me in the last two blogs with no justifiable reason, the last in defence of Dismayed’s continual harping. You got it wrong as others pointed out.
            My advice to you would be read what is written, not what you think you see, you are smarter than that. I didnt abuse you, never have. As for intellect, i dont have a problem with mine, so why are so called smarter people than me abusing you?
            Finally dont call me an arsehole. You owe me an apology.

            • Dismayed says:

              lotod projecting as usual and proving Dr Panny 100% correct. Take Dr Penny’s advice. I don’t see anyone “abusing” Dr Penny but you lotod.

        • Boadicea says:

          Laugh it off, Lou. You haven’t changed at all.

  • Derek Dockett says:

    Jack is it possible I am a lot smarter than I think I am?

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