Australian terrorist Neil Prakash is before the Turkish courts. It is just the beginning of his punishment. Eventually, it is hoped he be returned to Australia to face punishment for his crimes.
Born in Melbourne of Fijian and Cambodian parents, the 25-year-old is an Australian citizen and so he’s our problem but like patrons at the deli counter at Woolworths, Australia will have to take a number and wait to get its hands on Prakash.
He is, to employ the vernacular, in more shit than a Werribee duck. I could be more sensitive and suggest he’s in more strife than the early settlers but I don’t think the early settlers ever did it as tough as he soon will.
Full column here.
fascinating!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/?utm_term=.d391051b4742&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation&wpmk=1
I believe the Pakistani chappies are also good at eliciting the “truth”, Mr Insider, although only have the Movie “Rendition” to back up this claim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQzrWzGyhQ
Every prisoner there is deemed to be such a threat or in danger (think Aldrich Ames) that they be kept in solitary 23 out of 24. Good place for them.
And what of those who fund these terrorist organisations? Pay for their recruitment, their wages, their weapons. The people who make it all possible?
The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer person.
person?? Most gracious of you
There but for the grace of the fates or gods go I. There’s a pleasing sense in righteousness and scorn but these terrorists are the products of genetics and environment. Theres a murderous primal bastard in all of us that either gets deployed or doesn’t according to our experiences in life’s journey.
Simply expressing indignation and outrage doesn’t change anything. It’s a cheap get out of the responsibility that lies with all of us to make a better world. The root causes of most of the susceptible manipulated into violence and murder are religion and money.
Clearly there are a very small minority just naturally inclined by brain chemistry to be incorrigibly anti social but when tribes are formed by god botherers or kings for a purpose the difference between us and them is geography. Not some fanciful innate betterness. Notwithstanding your god assures you he made you perfect and loves your little cotton socks.
There must be an antidote for such sanctimonious beliefs – like being on the receiving ends of their murderous behavior.
History is littered with people who did not succumb to the behaviour you say is in all of JB.
Oh my is that JS is TBLS???
You miss the point entirely. Saint Goody Two Shoes might have suffered torture all his life and remained the ducks nuts in human kindness, but if Saint Goody Two Shoes had been born with Mad Abduls brain chemistry and been subjected to his formative environment and been offered more money than he had ever seen in his life to fight for the designs of the evilly intertwined religious prompters and insanely wealthy insanely ambitious, then Saint Goody Two Shoes would probably come to an end wrapped in explosives in a crowded market place,
If we are genuine in our desire to overcome terrorism we must take a long hard look at ourselves and our so called allies and not just stand on the sidelines and jeer at the dumb bastards who waste their lives for the truly evil with the slimy smiles and private jets.
JB
If ISIL had behaved themselves instead of going into on an ethnic cleansing binge the current story would be very different.
These clowns wanted to set up a super Islamic State and at the start they probably had a lot of latent support.
Once the atrocities started to come out, they lost support and all that did was produce more atrocities.
It is a bit like when the Nazis invaded the Ukraine – they received enormous support and then they started to bump off the locals and the rest is history.
In the case of ISIL, there was nothing that the west had done that incited mass murder.
They, and the Nazis, had ( have) one similarity – they thought they were superior which is a learned behaviour taught to them by their elders.
I think you are stretching it a lot to come to your conclusions.
Western aggression and manipulation throughout the Middle East over the last hundred years or so including the recent invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan has obviously inspired a lot of hatred to be exploited.
The point I am making is it is the Saudis and allied states who are our allies that fund ISIL. We, the Western allies are making little more than a token effort to defeat ISIL on the ground.
We turned a blind eye to the huge convoys of tankers exporting oil from ISIL controlled oil fields for years (how the hell that does that happen?) until the Russians got stuck into them. How the hell did all that American equipment fall into ISIL hands? Who is replacing it? Without funding ISIL would have withered to insignificance long ago.
If you could explain exactly what you mean by “my conclusions” I’ll have a better idea of what you are on about.
JB
I will agree with you that the west contributed to the rise of ISIL and the Islamic Brotherhood – they are both nationalistic movements born out of colonial attitudes and interference.
From your writings, I concluded, and maybe wrongly, that you were saying that the west was responsible for their barbaric behaviour. That is home grown and has been around for 1000 years.
BS One mans barbarism…………………. No-one has the monopoly on that JS.
I find the best path to understanding is to apply the criteria hypothetically to myself.
I was born Youseff, any of the following, my brother is living in a cage in Guantanamo? My little sister was blown to smithereens by a coalition of the willing daisy cutter? My grandmother horribly burned by white phosphorus living out her days in perpetual agony? My cousin reduced to a gibbering vegetable by concussion?
Even if I live comfortably in another country I know of these things happening to my people. From my view I see a great injustice? I am full of murderous rage frustration and anonyminity. Just point me in the direction.
What drives me? The Immans, peer pressure, romantic notions, a genuine belief that in paradise as a martyr? Camaraderie? A sense of purpose? The money! More than I could ever dream of?
All the same sort of reasons soldiers have always volunteered.
I’m not going to hunt around for a “credible” link to deaths and injuries among civilians from at in the Middle East and North Africa in the last twenty years or because they are rare, but the numbers are astonishingly high and ghastly to contemplate.
So you’d better do your own googling if you are really curious.
Cheers.
are you trying to say sociopaths are used in warfare and always have been? true
I think war turns people into sociopaths – it is kill or be killed.
This bloke deserves to be in a Turkish gaol. Our jails here are like resorts in comparison.
Isn’t this just typical of the Looters
No surprise in this finding. Typically sly Looter stuff.
http://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2017/06/22/nbn-inferior-technology-poor-rich-socio-economic
That’d be right Bassman. The lying Looters have never given a rats about the poor folks in Australia, they just pretend to at election time.
Hockey told us that poor people don’t drive so, in that vein, perhaps poor people don’t need decent NBN coverage either?
So they’ve now given bigger government grants to wealthy private schools, massive tax cuts to their corporate mates AND are giving themselves a pay rise.
How there’s anybody left who’d still give them a vote just stuns me.
Grubby Cheats the lot of them.
Do some research, Bella and you will find (factually) that the less well off’s lot was greatly improved under Howard’s tenure. That demographic never had it so good, and they got more bang for their buck. This, despite the media’s loathing of Howard, is precisely the reason he was PM for so long. Be sure that bludgers and greenies know who will best provide for their next foil.
I’ve had the same argument about 10 yrs ago with Bassman and supplied the figures/facts, which, from memory, old mate did not refute.
I welcome all and sundry to look into the Howard years and the extra coin in the pockets of the less well off.
And if anyone has any spare time left they can check out the behaviours of the workers friend (unions), and the dirty deals done dirt cheap, for the worker and the rest goes into the unions coffers.
And very amusing to see comments suggesting the cfmeu chap was only having a laugh. I’d like old mate Unmade to vis a vis with that thug and tell him to pull his head in. Alas the dismayed are afraid and fight the good fight from the safety of their bedsits.
Screw the workers, which we will do on your behalf, provided we are within the frame, thus nullifying workers genuine concerns that would rightfully go to an impartial adjudicator.
Delusional. the Howard/Costello era will be looked back on as the decade that Australian individuals became the Most indebted on the planet ever( only outdone again last year). The people of Australia went from being very good savers at historically about 11% to negative savers indebted to over 150% of income. Australians during and after the GST began saving again at that more traditional rate of 10% and saw real wage increases until 2013. Yes there was “real” wage rises after 2001 which was after Howard/Costello created a mini recession in 2000. There was No Pension increase, the unemployed benefits went even further below the accepted poverty line measures. Individual workplace agreements cut real wages to those with No way to bargain. The Howard/Costello Unfunded Upper Middle Class welfare is still causing the Nation problems. Savings again are being depleted back down to about 6% now and as above personal indebtedness has ballooned again under the coalition fiscal settings because wages have Fallen in real terms. You will also note under the coalition governments income as a share always favours profits over wages as we see reported last week. Your continued misrepresentation and created memories of the wasted years of the Howard/Costello era only prove you are delusional or deliberately disingenuous.
Marvelous what low interest rates will do.
I am always totally amazed how you can twist every argument to blame the Libs.
It is pure BS – the same as the initials of your leader who specializes in it.
Are you sure you are not on his staff and feed him his lines?
Or is it the message from Propaganda Central that continually spews out and the acolytes dutifully spread the word without any thought?
Whatever it is, it is extremely tedious.
Peppa Pig is much more interesting – you obviously have not been taking advice.
Jack Sprat. Geez yer right into thus second childhood thing.
Get a designated parental guide to teach you how to use youtube.
I’ll indulge just this once more.
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc0knsyoqYU
JB
Noooooooooo! Reading the books as well as Dismal’s offering is as much as I can take.
However, thank you for the link – I am sure it will keep the apple of my eye entertained for a few minutes.
Once one has one or two of these, attitudes to climate change changes dramatically.
He’s right about the Libs. Useless nest feathering chums.
A million years of Looter rule under Menzies and it took Whitlam to bring sewerage to the Western Suburbs of Sydney. Bella is correct. The rich got richer at an exponential rate under Howard.
I would have thought it better to remove the sewerage from western Sydney rather than bring it to the area. But hey, what would I know, i’m delusional and sometimes even disingenuous !!!
The end for Thurston – sad café.
Sometimes! All of the time, but we can settle on most of the time.
Wasn’t it great.
All those people out in Western Sydney making a monza.
Some of the most expensive suburbs are out that way and are far far more expensive than parts of the North Shore.
Your argument does not hold up Bassy – everybody benefited..
By the way, we did not get sewerage in our until the early 90’s and we are definitely not in Western Sydney.
But there again, some Labor people, when in power, have stated that “The North Shore can look after themselves”
So please do not give be that BS about the Libs.
Bassman It is accepted by thinking people that Gough achieved more in 2 years than Menzies did in 2 goes at it over 2 decades. The last and only time the Nation had NO debt was in 1974 under Gough and Australia’s first economic neo -liberal treasury the drovers dog Bill Hayden. Still Gough then Hawke and Keating set the Nation up for the lives we enjoy today we did have a wasted decade under Howard/Costello where they had the income to produce an over $200 billion sovereign wealth fund but they decided to spend it on Upper Middle Class Welfare leaving an $80 billion a year structural deficit in the budget which abbott then refused to allow savings measures to pass the senate on. They did set up the future fund to pay the politicians pensions though, well some of it anyway.
Why did he need Khemlani then?
In terms of political environment Howard got hit on the are by a rainbow. Sold the farm, and the gold and spent the dough on buying votes. And left us with a structural disaster.
It was the greatest economic boom that ever was or ever will be, how could everyone not be better off?
The Howard government should have and could have set the country up for life and he blew it.
The carpetbaggers took Australia to the cleaners courtesy of their little stooge John Howard.
“It was the greatest economic boom that ever was or ever will be, how could everyone not be better off?”
So you are agreeing with me that everyone was better off? Keep up the good work Baptisto and stick it right up ’em.
How could they not be better off in that period! They’d have been better off in that remarkable period if Crusty the Clown was Prime Minister The consequences after the Howard era are what matter. I cant improve on Dismayed’s excellent denouement so I strongly recommend you pay proper attention to it
Delusional, but you don’t have to be!
You spew mindless vomit
Yairs Frank. “spewing” is the method of ejecting material from the stomach. Me personally, I never really got into a meaningful conversation with one of me chucks, assuming without consideration they were all a bit brainless. If often expensive.
Do yer really reckon some of them are sentient? Or are yer just just being allegorical or something?
If the thickies are voting for one nation in droves it makes the looters look, (and I use the term advisedly) reasonable by comparison. That is scary enough in itself.
Just need to get the Abbott Hansen Bernardi Party up and dysfunctioning.
Should be a doddle for Abbott to wreck that one.
Wonder if they show reruns of Midnight Express at recreation time? And nothing else.
As with Five Go Mad on Mescaline, will they need vaseline in 40 kg drums?
“Midnight Express” was mainly a load of Hollywood crap. Billy Hayes was a little shit and his parents stumped up the cash to spring him.
Any worse I wonder than being banged up in Kerobokan in Bali, Mr Insider, as Schapelle was? This cove certainly in a lot of trouble as you indicate In your blog and I quote: “he is wanted by the FBI, MI5, Mossad, the AFP and is presently being ‘interviewed’ by the MIT, Turkey’s National Intelligence Organisation.” Strewth, he wont have any fingernails left by “interviews” end!
Kerobokan? Luxury.
Give me Kerobokan any day. Scahapelle even used to order in Macca’s according to one of our peerless tabloid news services.
A local acquaintance assures me that the best weed in Bali comes right out of Kerobokan.
even better stories of Tommy Soeharto and others doing it pretty easily in jakarta, regular trips away, golf trips to Aus etc.
It ain’t Kansas, that’s for sure
In the merde he may well be, but his treatment will be better than a kid souveniring a propaganda poster in North Korea.
Yep
Give him to the highest bidder I say. Won’t be Australia – we can’t afford him
Are you the same idiot how all through the 2016 American Election would sign off Donald Trump you magnificent bastard? You bored the shit out of us then and you are still doing it now. Change the record there’s a good chap.
Say again Uncle Quentin, we had a hugeeeeeeee laugh at your post keep em coming and while you are at ait try and make yourself even remotely interesting to other bloggers. Does Mummy know you are using her PC? We cant stop laughing at you!
Really? Do the words “wankers paradise” mean anything to you?
Stop it UQ! Just had this overexcited bloke named Henry ring up our travel agent wanting air tickets to this “Wankers Paradise”. He thought it might be in the Whitsundays.
It is JB. They all,said to say hello when I rang for a booking.
Lou, they are pulling your leg, or something else. There is no such place as “Wankers Paradise” though I can see why you would want to go there.
Henry rang the travel agent in the mistaken belief taken from UQ’s post that it was in fact a physical and no doubt in his own imagination an utopian destination for him.
UQ was speaking figuratively about Henry’s mental state, but, well, you know Henry. It was of course perfectly reasonable for Henry to connect the mythical location with the Whitsundays.
Check your tickets, I’m guessing they assumed you meant the Whitsundays?
If you come across Henry let me know.
Its a pity Macquarie Island is a world heritage site and nature reserve or it would be a perfect dumping ground for IS and other islamic radicals. Just leave them there with materials to build themselves basic huts and regular food drops and let them stew in their rotten islamic juices.
I wonder if we could persuade South Africa to reopen Robben Island…
Oh no, Macquarie Island is nice, if a little cold. Besides they just got rid of all the rats.
If you google Robben Island it looks very pleasant. Too good for islamofascists.
Beautiful views of Table Mountain. I’m surprised they haven’t converted the convicts’ quarters into boutique hotel yet as they tend to do here
I proposed the ‘Antarctic Solution’ a long time ago. This would be fine:
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/history/stations/wilkes
Elephant Island?
Lucky for him that his faith will provide succour.
Imagine having the temerity to request a preferred location for detention. I’m with one of those on the other side who suggests Mossad and Israel would be the toughest gig.
They hadn’t finished building the Supermax when I was in Colorado and there was stuff in the local Boulder/Denver newspaper about whether the death penelty would be carried out there. Friend said it was worth the drive to go and have a look but we headed to Pikes Peak.
It has a veritable who’s who in residence, think Prakash is more deserving of Mossads care they’ll look after him.
I’ve only seen photos of Colorado’s Supermax and it looks nasty.
The photos I saw of Barghouti in an Israeli jail looked positively luxurious. I’ve read some nasty things about Turkish jails. Not to mention the Bangkok Hilton, although that might not be one of the options.
Sharing a cabin on the high seas with Clive Palmer could put some back on the straight and narrow,